Le sam. 29 août 2020 à 23:21, Lucas Francesco <lucas.francesco93@gmail.com> a écrit :
>As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc) Plan 9 reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went, but those 3 are responsible for at least abaco, the initial python port, and the initial work into what is now the 9front bootloader.

Also another note: from what I know fgb ( as you mention Abaco and he
is the creator) Is argentinian, and Argentina isn't Brazillian
territory, yet. I know "responsible" can have a different
connotation/implication than creator, so i'd love to hear some
clarification if there's a backstory though.

Fgb is indeed Argentinian, but speaks perfect Portuguese and lived for a number of years in Brazil. Also, at least for a part of the timespan I mentioned he lived in Brazil (we even lived in the same street for a month!) That's why I considered him as one of the regular users in Brazil.

I have no idea about the current 9front bootloader, and would love to
hear notes about who did it, thanks to bringing it to light.

I am the one who did the early work on it. The ideas have been presented in http://4e.iwp9.org/papers/9null.pdf.


Lucas

Em sáb., 29 de ago. de 2020 às 16:55, Iruatã Souza
<iru.muzgo@gmail.com> escreveu:
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> Le sam. 29 août 2020 à 19:26, Leonardo <leonardohcoelho@gmail.com> a écrit :
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>> Cool!
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>> I want to make a Plan 9 distro aimed at brazilians: I'm at the beginning of this journey. My plan is to translate all the documentation (articles and man pages), try to make the system more user friendly (not for hackers but for common people) and also work in ordinary software like a modern browser, a word processor, spreadsheet software, a kind of powerpoint etc.
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>
> As another historical note, for a number of years (2006 to 2009 iirc) Plan 9 reached the peak of 3 regular users in Brazil. Others came and went, but those 3 are responsible for at least abaco, the initial python port, and the initial work into what is now the 9front bootloader.
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> So, Leonardo, welcome aboard :)
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> Besides translation, what are the Brazilian-specific needs you are trying to address?
> I highly recommend you search the list for other projects similar to yours.
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> Anyway, I wish you the best of luck in the journey!
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> iru
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>> I am studying Plan 9 and I am totally in love with it: read files, write to files and again: read files, write to files. And what else do you need to do? Little or nothing: things are really simple. The NSA invented SELinux (mandatory access control) because it saw that, from a security point of view, the idea of discretionary access control did not provide much. Okay, it's an idea and it works. But Plan 9, before, had introduced the idea of namespace which is, by the way, a much simpler and smarter idea: each process can have its own restricted view of the universe of files. I really don't understand why Plan 9 has not been adopted. Legacy base?
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