From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <9front-bounces@9front.inri.net> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from 9front.inri.net (9front.inri.net [168.235.81.73]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A259927C12 for ; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 19:12:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from mimir.eigenstate.org ([206.124.132.107]) by 9front; Tue Feb 13 13:11:11 -0500 2024 Received: from mimir.eigenstate.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mimir.eigenstate.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 7e165171 for <9front@9front.org>; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:11:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=eigenstate.org; h= message-id:to:subject:date:from:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mail; bh=fr2p+sia32Ah 7QX+wy3gc4dCkm0=; b=WGeFJ+utZFFBFcGVK0EgNPi5bzPiGcQGG6UJTNIH0gLu mvLyO+cQwgUBYVeEEUMPWRWkGjwJHuMp+9jHo+/dsyeCGZ0Q3JwiXQTAKj0XB4IJ S7Bn3RabkxIaY+ujUs0aUubU1HiWm9ha6VN8TS/SwPDeGL94dvAnJ46859z0xw0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=eigenstate.org; h=message-id :to:subject:date:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=Ia5pwGJi9MZdA1n5+lm ze0mKU1IR7rDJ4UV1PeRb0i1LjrWAVnn/57AbpEAPj0cmhm9q3VNuBJz2WMwfq5x NVqcM5HgPQkSSKzYAwA5sLcLZDbqtPU5ehiYMIEihDr+ZLyzWO5DORgE32ggrZaD 1+x2dXJA0OMw/WvBGoHHeJqQ= Received: from abbatoir (pool-108-6-24-2.nycmny.fios.verizon.net [108.6.24.2]) by mimir.eigenstate.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 1db767ec (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256:NO) for <9front@9front.org>; Tue, 13 Feb 2024 10:11:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <58FDC930F99DB7629ACF5BDD10692ED7@eigenstate.org> To: 9front@9front.org Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2024 13:11:06 -0500 From: ori@eigenstate.org In-Reply-To: <63ddb3cf-e5ec-47bd-a243-3670495e873f@posixcafe.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: extensible asynchronous API HTML over ORM proxy-oriented storage hypervisor locator Subject: Re: [9front] Re: commit 671d8daa0f2d7f067b8ab3d547adbd718da93fe9 Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Jacob Moody : > On 2/13/24 11:42, Anthony Martin wrote: > > That reference has been there since first edition Unix: > > > > For years when several calendars were in vogue in > > different countries, the calendar of England (and > > therefore her colonies) is printed. P.S. try cal of 1752. > > > > The 1752 is the key here. That is the year that England (and > > her colonies) switched to the Gregorian calendar. France did > > it in 1582, Russia in 1918, etc. That note is telling you which > > calendar the cal(1) command uses. It's important. > > > > Why get rid of it? > > > > Cheers, > > Anthony > > I admit I was unfamiliar with the varying adoption dates. > I thought it was referring to the use of the Gregorian calendar > itself, not the adoption date. I removed it because referring to > England's colonies in the present tense rubs me the wrong way. > I pitched this on the grid and others had also shared my reading of this. > > I agree that we can document that this is the adoption rate used, but I would > like to be more direct with it. > > - moody Please be very careful touching any political phrasing around time. Timezones are political entities. OpenBSD's phrasing: The Gregorian Reformation is assumed to have occurred in 1752 after the 2nd of September. By this time, most countries had recognized the Reformation (although a few did not recognize it until the early 1900s). Eleven days following that date were eliminated by the Reformation, so the calendar for that month is a bit unusual. Ubuntu and FreeBSD's phrasing (and a new flag): -s country_code Assume the switch from Julian to Gregorian Calendar at the date associated with the country_code. If not specified, ncal tries to guess the switch date from the local environment or falls back to September 2, 1752. This was when Great Britain and her colonies switched to the Gregorian Calendar.