From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <9front-bounces@9front.inri.net> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from 9front.inri.net (9front.inri.net [168.235.81.73]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDF8220AE for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:02:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from wopr.sciops.net ([216.126.196.60]) by 9front; Fri Mar 8 04:01:10 -0500 2024 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sciops.net; s=20210706; t=1709888459; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to; bh=pxeOKqTQ/FDpL3qa2a+IeqvmyvnGwMlNv7gi26HGqZk=; b=eJa+XX8snbQmJ3SqGae47/+ciwAvtxw6yd/s6tPeCaTwMwfZvfPUy6PJwW2Bg7so3XcWr6 Mv0RehVPAZD75Y1itnH1bS12q0aLd+mCmkZzLWqIgtP0F8SLZcGOsaKCf4uUzgf4aMmvm0 0TXCrrCr/Xx/OVkgm5vrV9I/YBUJi7Y= Received: by wopr.sciops.net (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 25a5eeef (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305:256:NO) for <9front@9front.org>; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 01:00:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2024 10:01:04 +0100 From: qwx@sciops.net To: 9front@9front.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-ID: <9front.9front.org> List-Help: X-Glyph: ➈ X-Bullshit: SSL over XML method event Subject: Re: [9front] 9front man pages Reply-To: 9front@9front.org Precedence: bulk On Fri Mar 8 06:28:55 +0100 2024, k0ga@shike2.com wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Mar 07, 2024 at 11:07:14PM -0600, Jacob Moody wrote: > > I am also not sure what you mean by "Runtime options are listed for > > readability", do you mean to have a table layout for all command line > > options consistently? If so I also would not personally be a fan of that. > > I agree with Moody here. The 9front man pages are written from the point > of view of a full lecture of the page, giving a good organization of the > text and relating options between them. Moving to have a table of options > will enforce a bad documentation culture where the full overall reason of > the options is lost because they are dealt individually. I think the > SYNOPSIS section is already providing a good summary. This has been argued over before and I personally disagree with the notion of having to read the entire manpage just to find the one flag I'm interested in. I would much prefer (with much bias) the style/format in ipconfig(8) or wadfs(4), combining both. Then again that's simply not practical in some cases, so as Ori said it should be dealt on a case by case basis. On Fri Mar 8 05:47:24 +0100 2024, eso@self.rodeo wrote: > I'd like to hear what others think. Also I was thinking this would just > cover system usage sections like userland, system administration, file > servers, etc. But if it goes well, maybe we can go beyond that. The last > patch I submitted, for acmed(8), Ori had some objections about my > phrasing. So it seems I could use some advisement. But for the record, I > have experience with technical writing. I think there's no point in trying to come up with a general directive which everyone agrees on; just between us with Ori, moody and k0ga, we agree on most points, but not all. I suggest that you just pick manpages you would like to improve, and write a patch, so something more specific could be discussed. Cheers, qwx