From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28169 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2023 17:33:43 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Jun 2023 17:33:43 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0157425B4; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 03:33:41 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1686936821; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=AZmByFWb0UviuxqhD3J4Gnc2X6qEIA+pFOOqGkAmuV4=; b=1q6fEc/49aNAMtLX0evG6sYDfnglXwwxnFUHvgOWjkiLfP4OJ4F1796nxoO4qB+m1+Ha8G iyLhcfEO6yGm222BMiQzQjmKidhcD7x2CVpDNAssiPw+1qhaJ/aKVXIiXyFfbUiPKbNbFc 4uHwFNX4HW+70zkeZKdCqkWZ1BtwJz4= Received: from mail-4318.protonmail.ch (mail-4318.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.18]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E670425AE for ; Sat, 17 Jun 2023 03:33:34 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 17:33:24 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1686936812; x=1687196012; bh=AZmByFWb0UviuxqhD3J4Gnc2X6qEIA+pFOOqGkAmuV4=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=ply313T1l4rXm3fZzP89BtwZsUWbFry8DL5PeETxgtGV0PYfdYSsnWT5K95kNAx2W m4ZU8crB6NAcbwNqYI3eSx4G1OY+hC9g1PnRZkw0XGoGMIjMQUBzEa3qFHB+53Cb+6 XAv1ZCc/M6+KVPc6z6mDSRuPTKaiBI1Qw5d4ZcbQi5bomlIE8WxZGGmQTJlbP1d2bi btrbMcKuEHqt8clNw6MuSkyNRQQ9yAQ8aLYVnjJskRtsJf/r988/VXYXVzsQBFSx++ 4w4ul6VdUorufTsXpfzwTOPiexcjQTD3c1O14AkobYULPHqSgAxYOHBX2aDKDGnBEU 7ChxflYM5BqMw== To: Clem Cole Message-ID: <3j50sQfrIaP4KY538ptQg5480Fc8VW-NLkOlqM5hOrMo3sE8orBUPg3bxKnX3LtYZBV76G4K5elmvePm-OI-L3VlIFcOy8fk9uDY0Ro5gOs=@protonmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: SMUBNI4DTKJ5LXVASP6VCWXQEJIUTX42 X-Message-ID-Hash: SMUBNI4DTKJ5LXVASP6VCWXQEJIUTX42 X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: COFF X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: White Backgrounds on GUIs after Dark Backgrounds on Terminals? List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via COFF Reply-To: segaloco X-Spam: Yes > As for the current light on dark, I wonder if this is just a new set of e= ngineers making their mark. I'm sure it's better. The cost is the same, so = now it's just marketing and a way to show off being different - e.g., new/c= ool. That kinda gets at the root of what I'm puzzling on too. At times where a = dark color scheme would've had some, if even minor, technical benefit, it w= as stepped away from (as you said, Xerox is a paper company, that all makes= perfect sense), however, now we're seeing the pendulum swing at a time whe= re any amount of phosphor relief or other potential power savings from not = driving visual content are lost on modern display technologies. And I'll be the first to admit the difference is probably negligible, it's = not like I've done a power consumption analysis on a tube, although in this= discussion it has made me curious if a noticable difference in power consu= mption could be measured between two tubes powered up to the same state but= one has zero drawing going on (i.e. no electrons beaming to the screen) wh= ereas the other one is on full blast bright white. I'll add it to the list= of experiments for this winter... > side tidbit - he has the patent on the loadable curser - which was initia= lly a martini glass, not an hourglass to show time I was waiting for a work conference to kick off as I was reading this email= , shared this tidbit. Our resident COBOL/dinosaur era guy just remarked if= programming at the time didn't drive you to drink there was something wron= g with you. - Matt G.