From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 14645 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2023 05:24:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Oct 2023 05:24:48 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B6DC40275; Sun, 1 Oct 2023 15:24:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lists.tip.net.au (pasta.tip.net.au [IPv6:2401:fc00:0:129::2]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDB2940274 for ; Sun, 1 Oct 2023 15:24:36 +1000 (AEST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (ppp121-45-200-233.cbr-trn-nor-bras38.tpg.internode.on.net [121.45.200.233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailhost.tip.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Rysw15rbCz9QW1; Sun, 1 Oct 2023 16:24:33 +1100 (AEDT) From: steve jenkin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.21\)) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 16:24:33 +1100 Message-Id: To: COFF X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.21) Message-ID-Hash: M26BYQWAK6XPU3GZIAGWV4LTQHNZKPCE X-Message-ID-Hash: M26BYQWAK6XPU3GZIAGWV4LTQHNZKPCE X-MailFrom: sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] "Hot Spot" High Performing Centres in Computing List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Bell Labs Dept 1127 / CSRC qualifies as =E2=80=9CVery High Performing=E2=80= =9D to me (is there a better name?) Before that, John von Neumann and his team were outstanding in the = field. DARPA, under Licklider then Bob Taylor & Ivan Sutherland and more people = I don=E2=80=99t know, went on to fund game-changing technologies, such TCP/IP, including over = Wireless and Satellite links. Engelbart=E2=80=99s Augmentation Research Centre was funded by DARPA, = producing NLS, the "oN-Line System=E2=80=9D. Taylor founded Xerox PARC, taking many of Engelbart=E2=80=99s team when = the ARC closed. PARC invented so many things, it=E2=80=99s hard to list=E2=80=A6 Ethernet, Laser printers, GUI & Windowing System, Object Oriented (? = good ?), what became =E2=80=99the PC' Evans & Sutherland similarly defined the world of Graphics for many = years. MIPS Inc created the first commercial RISC processor with a small team, = pioneering using 3rd Party =E2=80=9CFabs=E2=80=9D. At 200 Mhz, it was twice the speed of competitors. Seymour Cray and his small team built (with ECL) the fastest computers = for a decade. I heard that CDC produced a large, slow Operating System, so Cray went = and wrote a better one =E2=80=9Cin a weekend=E2=80=9D. A hardware & software whizz. I=E2=80=99ve not intended to leave any of the "Hot Spots=E2=80=9D out. While MIT did produce some good stuff, I don=E2=80=99t see it as =E2=80=9C= very high performing=E2=80=9D. Happy to hear disconfirming opinion. What does this has to do with now? Google, AWS and Space-X have redefined the world of computing / space in = the last 10-15 years. They've become High Performing =E2=80=9CHot Spots=E2=80=9D, building = technology & systems that out-perform everyone else. Again, not intentionally leaving out people, just what I know without = deeply researching. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Is this a topic that=E2=80=99s been well addressed? If so, sorry for = wasting time. Otherwise, would appreicate pointers & comments, especially if anyone = has created a =E2=80=98definitive=E2=80=99 list, which would imply some criteria for admission. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- Steve Jenkin, IT Systems and Design=20 0412 786 915 (+61 412 786 915) PO Box 38, Kippax ACT 2615, AUSTRALIA mailto:sjenkin@canb.auug.org.au http://members.tip.net.au/~sjenkin