From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED8026618 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 00:43:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDD9943140; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:43:39 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1709855019; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=8RGnQHxVpEiKI0T3wr4KUW2EV0+Zf7fO4rANfMrecL4=; b=10Zt02i212NyWKVFlRXYa64WnFUTrZTekWjrjm7ib5uSKAeg1/i8GsHNiSxb6Npq+NSKEl WdkVbwn2mjsyzBlXbQSHGAPsDs9Tf6+KfzcI8TFw2Vd/YGKvrex3E5kSoc9aezjtouKCLC 7z+Qo1duoPK8sjHG2gqf5wvRepyd9Pk= Received: from mail-4324.protonmail.ch (mail-4324.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.24]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D595F43136 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:43:33 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1709855011; x=1710114211; bh=8RGnQHxVpEiKI0T3wr4KUW2EV0+Zf7fO4rANfMrecL4=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=l6kIf6L/XOxgw48YUfl/PmI1lbdUB0huhSODXVF+sHM5fIzEZJhp4qwiD5BhkrfMe f5kO7N+NCvurHQ+etkBfdIGiFW3xazdEyLVtjHQ2qUEp3BbxNwkuI8nMEJR5FKF+rk ZkTDP2UnWkgSxTGK9ND6//Di1MCndKfPVCVZLLk6YSRNowTMe7ImPwMqnN1Gyx33o6 oe6Ch/PT7xPAMfSngq4AGq7QPUeuZhHhRAT3joJAHGdh+Z10RcnXGaXD9824kZWGNR 9e86Ec8AvTKsXgOdwDQtjn50Y1aJtEMFVWKx+14F9hb/zz+IOZSeldHa2PaQ3DXUwU M+svN1hQyLYfQ== Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2024 23:43:17 +0000 To: COFF Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <9eb334edeb7568193000f8755704af7799169b17.camel@gmail.com> Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: LFMABYK42I4LS27HSPRXUR2CSCJ2JIGX X-Message-ID-Hash: LFMABYK42I4LS27HSPRXUR2CSCJ2JIGX X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Re: (redirected from TUHS) What do you currently use for your primary OS at home? List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via COFF Reply-To: segaloco On Thursday, March 7th, 2024 at 2:44 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Thursday, 7 March 2024 at 1:47:26 -0500, Jeffry R. Abramson wrote: >=20 > > I eventually reverted back to Linux because it was clear that the > > user community was getting much larger, I was using it > > professionally at work and there was just a larger range of > > applications available. Lately, I find myself getting tired of the > > bloat and how big and messy and complicated it has all gotten. > > Thinking of looking for something simpler and was just wondering > > what do other old timers use for their primary home computing needs? >=20 >=20 > I'm surprised how few of the responders use BSD. My machines all > (currently) run FreeBSD, with the exception of a Microsoft box > (distress.lemis.com) that I use remotely for photo processing. I've > tried Linux (used to work developing Linux kernel code), but I > couldn't really make friends with it. It sounds like our reasons are > similar. >=20 > More details: >=20 > 1977-1984: CP/M, 86-DOS > 1984-1990: MS-DOS > 1991-1992: Inactive UNIX > 1992-1997: BSD/386, BSD/OS > 1997-now: FreeBSD >=20 > Greg > -- > Sent from my desktop computer. > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program > reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php Not an old timer but feel like getting in on the fun. My main system these= days is a Raspberry Pi 400 running a home-grown (but quite generic) Linux setup. Started as a cross-compiled kernel with a Gentoo stage 3 stuck on top, then started replacing and removing bits of userland. The main Gentoo-ism still around is that I didn't bump from OpenRC down to bare sysvinit, but pretty = much everything else has been replaced by upstream packages at this point. Desk= top is X11/dwm, haven't quite gotten hip with the Wayland stuff these days. I = keep a Windows 10 x86_64 desktop around for video games. Work is then a macOS h= ost but frequently working in a remote Windows desktop, so I use Windows, mac, = and Linux pretty evenly in a regular day. Have volleyed between FreeBSD and Linux historically, whichever has better hardware support for the main machine I'm running at the time, with FreeBSD preferred all things equal. I've taken my approach with Linux for a long t= ime, opting out of distros wherever possible and rolling my own system build. I= 've found it keeps the things I want working while being adaptable to incorpora= ting new bits at will. Firefox is the only major component that I don't build f= rom source, instead opting to grab updated binaries from Arch or Debian wheneve= r I feel like doing an update cycle. Everything else I just nab from whoever m= akes it and build it up from the source packages. It's nice having intimate con= trol over what goes in /bin vs /usr/bin vs /opt/bin (no /usr/local tree here...) On Thursday, March 7th, 2024 at 2:32 PM, Mike Markowski wrote: >=20 > I also use Raspberry Pi 3's in PiDP 8/I (https://udel.edu/~mm/pidp8i/) an= d 11/70. I wonder how long till a R-Pi is enough for a work station... >=20 > Mike Markowski I find the Raspberry Pi 400 checks all my boxes for what I tend to work on, although I'm not doing any, say, CAD or media editing, just writing code, some image processing, document scanning, and web browsing. - Matt G.