From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28956 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2023 03:03:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 29 Sep 2023 03:03:23 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48D6402A4; Fri, 29 Sep 2023 13:03:19 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1695956599; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=q5hEstrLuvEoYBjF2JsUyluN3UUguhsqSqVu5nLR51Y=; b=sjd2TELQSdN2+cZ0G918Sou5+cE3I5Wb6wKREFXkAP1i7asLrfOQClCcu/v5/IMWlzfUQI +Nzc6+DrOOxC28O8XBAkN+FblMXkmwSqiH+t2FBluuMTDdZXjVIIMH0cfCXUlfBMG5IA/l +6MTJoHWuMdO9e/RRnz52qBFcI6zsKM= Received: from mail-40132.protonmail.ch (mail-40132.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.132]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07A2140299 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2023 13:03:09 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1695956585; x=1696215785; bh=q5hEstrLuvEoYBjF2JsUyluN3UUguhsqSqVu5nLR51Y=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date: Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=tKOXkr3Tvp7ucmi/OvjrZUw+u53VuQ/TudOTWs3GkrV+pfg2H5BFEHhgTkL3vE5Dz JiQ4r9DLLMYdMn6q7kE2drawE+qblGvVF9OSKrEbMGcW4f+iKFo4vQ/gJij3KZs4h3 /Q1B+0wsI+7ZlocWhQsM+oIGshl5MIO26iSoComJiUbrgoACbSwSrA0mC57YCLj+9w ZqQJpdpOMBLnvRni6iq7tMfhKLIUTFKyoOq5Fiyjl6JPTHMbATUBiAtgIkBQLYGGFW J0TQhnr0+sPYu16jTAJtl14OIeNPJreuEpE6mu3TcCpqRjtGQLSX69aSUILAgZFKZP MpYgADnossZRQ== Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 03:03:01 +0000 To: COFF Message-ID: Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: GP2LFAQR5SBFW6IPABHTLMW43IHBQTQA X-Message-ID-Hash: GP2LFAQR5SBFW6IPABHTLMW43IHBQTQA X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [COFF] Smokin' In the Terminal Room List-Id: Computer Old Farts Forum Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via COFF Reply-To: segaloco Subject doesn't roll off the tongue like the song, but hey, I got a random = thought today and I'd be interested in experiences. I get where this could= be a little...controversial, so no pressure to reply publicly or at all. Was it firmly held lore from the earliest days to keep the air as clean as = possible in computer rooms in the earlier decades of computing? What has m= e asking is I've seen before photos from years past in R&D and laboratory s= ettings where whoever is being photographed is happy dragging away on a cig= arette (or...) whilst surrounded by all sorts of tools, maybe chemicals, wh= o knows. It was a simpler time, and rightfully so those sorts of lax attit= udes have diminished for the sake of safety. Still I wonder, was the situa= tion the same in computing as photographic evidence has suggested it is in = other such technical settings? Did you ever have to deal with a smoked out= server room that *wasn't* because of thermal issues with the machinery? I hope this question is fine by the way, it's very not tech focused but I a= lso have a lot of interest in the cultural shifts in our communities over t= he years. Thanks as always folks for being a part of one of the greatest s= tories still being told! - Matt G.