From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (mx1.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.32]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2754C21750 for ; Fri, 10 May 2024 11:13:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5MJs-00000004bwg-1qCF for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Fri, 10 May 2024 04:13:36 -0500 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5MJn-00000004M4E-3WqW for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Fri, 10 May 2024 04:13:31 -0500 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5MJg-00000004M45-0Mfy for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 10 May 2024 04:13:29 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5MJe-0000000GHcm-0hgv for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 10 May 2024 04:13:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5YVbARzV2apDB8zDOJ93hOre1lGAQsMOMLUteuwGcow=; b=rnSc+GtACTBpQ997BV4boTRPTW xjRVoyRl4TCGqnOqY4gfvVT+IbkSk97am9sybEqwgL4Rw6ymz/Lv+92q+tXzmvV71MUu/CliXx0sI VdMa5r9fjSpl1xPKWmxdMx5FMI2XLnDA4GDBxG8EEkmcvjZlH5dK2coAhIVrcRCBOsTQ=; Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s5MJW-0007nU-Mv for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 10 May 2024 11:13:17 +0200 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VbNTP16Nbz1sB74; Fri, 10 May 2024 11:13:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4VbNTP0jMDz1qqlW; Fri, 10 May 2024 11:13:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavis at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id jRMtpkDqZOeF; Fri, 10 May 2024 11:13:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: Qc11Fp9f/ZYfoouhlO0C0KmP5w/6pLKSARPb0lBgC2eNeeVy4YSUlRnwBDN+gLvq Received: from igel.home (aftr-82-135-83-158.dynamic.mnet-online.de [82.135.83.158]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Fri, 10 May 2024 11:13:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 263B52C1A3A; Fri, 10 May 2024 11:13:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab To: Andrew Cohen Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: Gnus sometimes reports new messages but not showing them on IMAP server In-Reply-To: <87jzk2w08d.fsf@ust.hk> (Andrew Cohen's message of "Fri, 10 May 2024 16:16:18 +0800") References: <87h6g7mm8r.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87ttjx55ey.fsf@uwo.ca> <875xwalmf4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wmoqjf92.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874jbmk2ql.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87wmocrcin.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <878r0s6yla.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87msp8qg7o.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87a5l89km2.fsf@uwo.ca> <87ikzwqcob.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87h6fcovw4.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87ikzs6kio.fsf@uwo.ca> <87msp3oqpz.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87ttj8gn91.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87msoy1syw.fsf@ust.hk> <87o79edsac.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87jzk2w08d.fsf@ust.hk> X-Yow: PARDON me, am I speaking ENGLISH? Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 11:13:12 +0200 Message-ID: <874jb62fo7.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk On Mai 10 2024, Andrew Cohen wrote: >>>>>> "XD" == Xiyue Deng writes: > > >> When the count is restored to normal, does "G p" show modseq > >> still without a value? > > XD> Yes. This is "G p" after I used the move-in-move-out trick to > XD> reset the count: > > XD> ,---- | ((modseq) | (uidvalidity . "11") | (active 1 . 12) | > XD> (permanent-flags %Seen %Answered %Flagged %Deleted %Draft > XD> $MDNSent)) `---- > > Thanks. It seems that two different cases have been reported: those > which are fixed with "M-g" and those (like this case of yours) that are > not. I was hoping that the absence of a value for modseq might be a > clue as to the difference, but apparently not :( The modseq value comes from the HIGHESTMODSEQ response (see RFC 4551, 3.1.1). If the HIGHESTMODSEQ response is missing, then the server does not support the persistent storage of mod-sequences. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different."