From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5725 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2023 18:53:07 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Dec 2023 18:53:07 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rFIjb-004DT7-0m for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 12:53:03 -0600 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rFIja-002TWD-2p for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2023 12:52:58 -0600 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rDmxU-002Lnv-15 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 14 Dec 2023 08:45:04 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rDmxS-001A72-2e for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 14 Dec 2023 08:45:04 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=/CI8Gt57M7ki8Yrp84+TFzqLEqyndcBxiyLtO5UOOc4=; b=TNxOM8f5SQst/bd0EUa29yxWNq k0oKOB4BnlYNQXbeedFqKmN+9UCaB5kgFvU2w7oBN7YDRd4KXH2yGBgZDTIGjrkpaLTqE1lgtoWJy YjMYqvIAPD6xc5Z5gVtSIMQPreofNacY7O1Lvh+FtkxGjyP+JBA9bRCli0GjQwrhBVsk=; Received: from gavdos.tim-landscheidt.de ([2a01:4f8:1c0c:4bd6::1]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rDmxK-0005Nj-P6 for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2023 15:44:57 +0100 Received: from port-62-145-29-194.static.as20676.net ([62.145.29.194]:59526 helo=vagabond) by gavdos.tim-landscheidt.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1rDmxH-007TcW-1p for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2023 14:44:51 +0000 From: Tim Landscheidt To: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: message-dont-send in queue folder not in draft folder Organization: https://www.tim-landscheidt.de/ References: <87v892b66c.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87zfye9kbg.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87cyva12ut.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87y1dx7x39.fsf@mat.ucm.es> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2023 14:44:50 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87y1dx7x39.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (Uwe Brauer's message of "Thu, 14 Dec 2023 14:06:02 +0100") Message-ID: <87msucx2ql.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-ID: Precedence: bulk Uwe Brauer wrote: >> I don't understand the issue here (or did not understand your original >> post). >> When I compose an email unplugged, if I don't send it (C-c C-d), it goes >> in drafts; if I send it (C-c C-c), it goes in the queue. How is your >> needs different from the default behaviour? > My problem is that my draft folder contains some 20 messages, basically > messages that are half done. > But sometimes I write 2 emails one after another, but I want to send > both say 2 hours later. Of course I can save them in the draft folder > but since that folder contains say 20 message. I don't find this > convenient. > Best would be to save these messages in the queue folder since it > remains me later to send these messages. > Now I could unplug gnus write these messages =ABsend=BB them and plugin g= nus > again. But I prefer to have gnus plugged in almost always, since some > message might arrive in the meantime. I do not use the plugging mechanism, but do you know about gnus-delay-article (https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Delayed-Articles.= html) and if it fits your use case? (The last paragraph in the manual about having to delete Date from message-draft-headers is outdated since Emacs 28.1 (?), but checking with a test mail does not hurt before using it for something important.) Tim