From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (mx1.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.32]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FCB2268C7 for ; Fri, 10 May 2024 14:25:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5PJA-00000004iUQ-107P for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Fri, 10 May 2024 07:25:04 -0500 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5PJ9-00000004MLc-43qF for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Fri, 10 May 2024 07:25:04 -0500 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5PJ7-00000004MLT-0SEh for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 10 May 2024 07:25:01 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s5PJ5-0000000GL92-28G2 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 10 May 2024 07:25:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=0u0TCQoOV0g54K2KR59Y3VbaF9/kUBGVU4MBLLfaEkw=; b=fZ0A4MlLDI4D0NyMvv7MyKytaz Xdmxv/Zrcg6zKMkaE64JRnYfEgL7DK2zyCfNcypF4Hq5n/r7uf8/xD23fvrhcS2O4kgb3hu8S4Lri e3FfvqlNYa3NUxsUkurVr09gh+AtHJiUJrdnanLD0eMV4EEwFKWsdWHsPbvk0gbTGhL0=; Received: from s1.lexort.com ([71.19.148.97]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s5PIs-00021F-S9 for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 10 May 2024 14:24:49 +0200 Received: by s1.lexort.com (Postfix, from userid 10853) id CC07E410719; Fri, 10 May 2024 08:24:43 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=lexort.com; s=mail; t=1715343883; bh=aUuFBPJq5SPkL9rqCa99IeSiDNqmRBqwnRcr+y5qiOU=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=c45Ii2f5G8RHl9ZHF1j7aVgcFDs4GUpen7tPA8Ppd47BXdl8H1S3Cn5VRPc4lMM8p uyB+4xvdDee7DHE8juTpzmNTj5jdiQPUVPr7tDojavzOgJZkKdJja05vktMTeSQJ9c 8D2av8HZ8b8gtYHI0WX5iKSI4Hmuus4K5QIa/A2Y= From: Greg Troxel To: Xiyue Deng Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: Gnus sometimes reports new messages but not showing them on IMAP server References: <87h6g7mm8r.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <878r1blqcg.fsf@uwo.ca> <87ttjx55ey.fsf@uwo.ca> <875xwalmf4.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wmoqjf92.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <874jbmk2ql.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> <87msoyfoo4.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> OpenPGP: id=098ED60E Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 08:24:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87msoyfoo4.fsf@debian-hx90.lan> (Xiyue Deng's message of "Thu, 09 May 2024 18:20:27 -0700") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xiyue Deng writes: > Hi Greg, > > Greg Troxel writes: > >> Xiyue Deng writes: >> >>> This makes much sense. I'll try M-g the next time this happens. Thanks >>> everyone! >> >> I had a situation where a message arrived in INBOX. I could see it in >> the filesystem dovecot reads, and in other clients. It was as if it did >> not exist in gnus. >> >> M-g on the group in *Group* buffer seems to have resolved that. >> It is interesting that moving out and back resolved what I think is the >> same situation in the past. >> >> Just making up stuff without basis: It's like a missing wakeup in a >> synchronization protocol. > > Unfortunately, it looks like it doesn't fix it for me, presumably > because I'm using nnimap instead of reading from a local mailbox. > Therefore it feels natural to assume a bug in nnimap, though it's still > years earlier before I can figure it out from the code, if that ever > happens :P This was nnimap in my case, with emacs and dovecot on the same machine if that matters.