Hi Geoff, There are several questions here, this only addresses one of them. The best bet is not to have certfile in your .ebrc config file at all. If you don't specify, curl looks for it and probably finds it, because it was configured that way. Only set certfile = if you need to override what curl does. If the certificates are not found, for any reason, then any https connection will fail. You can bypass this with the vs command. vs don't verify ssl connections. Then nasa and everything else will work - though if you're logging into an https site to do your banking it is less secure, obviously. Karl Dahlke