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[2a00:1450:4864:20::52b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p12-20020a05600c1d8c00b003f17514c7b3si138233wms.1.2023.04.21.17.25.06 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nicolai.kraus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::52b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::52b; Received: by mail-ed1-x52b.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-506b20efd4cso3807421a12.3 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:25:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:aa7:c316:0:b0:508:4cd8:aa64 with SMTP id l22-20020aa7c316000000b005084cd8aa64mr6292103edq.31.1682123105790; Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:25:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Nicolai Kraus Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 02:24:54 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [HoTT] Free higher groups To: homotopytypetheory@googlegroups.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003071dd05f9e1ce22" X-Original-Sender: nicolai.kraus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20221208 header.b="Ow/wep06"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nicolai.kraus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::52b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=nicolai.kraus@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list HomotopyTypeTheory@googlegroups.com; contact HomotopyTypeTheory+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1041266174716 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , --0000000000003071dd05f9e1ce22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi David, Congratulations (again)! I find it very interesting that this question has a positive answer. I had suspected that it might separate HoTT from Voevodsky's HTS (aka 2LTT with a fibrancy assumption on strict Nat). Since this isn't the case, do we know of another type in HoTT that is inhabited in HTS, while we don't know whether we can construct an inhabitant in HoTT? Best, Nicolai On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 8:30=E2=80=AFPM Jon Sterling = wrote: > Dear David, > > Congratulations on your beautiful result; I'm looking forward to > understanding the details. Recently I had been wondering if anyone had > proved this, and I am delighted to see that it is now done. > > Best wishes, > Jon > > > On 21 Apr 2023, at 12:04, David W=C3=A4rn wrote: > > > Dear all, > > > > I'm happy to announce a solution to one of the oldest open problems in > synthetic homotopy theory: the free higher group on a set is a set. > > > > The proof proceeds by describing path types of pushouts as sequential > colimits of pushouts, much like the James construction. This description > should be useful also in many other applications. 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Hi David,

Congratulations (again)! I fi= nd it very interesting that this question has a positive=C2=A0answer. I had= suspected that it might separate HoTT from Voevodsky's=C2=A0HTS (aka 2= LTT with a fibrancy assumption on strict Nat). Since this isn't the cas= e, do we know of another type in=C2=A0HoTT that is inhabited in HTS, while = we don't know whether we can construct=C2=A0an inhabitant in HoTT?
=
Best,
Nicolai
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On Fri, = Apr 21, 2023 at 8:30=E2=80=AFPM Jon Sterling <jon@jonmsterling.com> wrote:
Dear David,

Congratulations on your beautiful result; I'm looking forward to unders= tanding the details. Recently I had been wondering if anyone had proved thi= s, and I am delighted to see that it is now done.

Best wishes,
Jon


On 21 Apr 2023, at 12:04, David W=C3=A4rn wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I'm happy to announce a solution to one of the oldest open problem= s in synthetic homotopy theory: the free higher group on a set is a set. >
> The proof proceeds by describing path types of pushouts as sequential = colimits of pushouts, much like the James construction. This description sh= ould be useful also in many other applications. For example it gives a stra= ightforward proof of Blakers-Massey.
>
> Best wishes,
> David
>
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