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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>, musl@lists.openwall.com
Cc: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>, tz@iana.org
Subject: [musl] Re: [tz] Weird PST8PDT and EST5EDT behavior on Alpine Linux
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:46:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac7b4972-ca62-486d-8363-b61ed09c0ed7@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3ttlj8j3y.fsf_-_@nitrogen.jhcloos.org>

On 2024-03-06 07:39, James Cloos via tz wrote:

> (I must say it was a bit anoying that the library kept the original
> definition of EST5EDT et alia rathar than moving with the legislation.
> But only a bit.)

So Openwrt uses pre-2007 US daylight saving rules for TZ='EST5EDT'? 
That's puzzling. I thought Openwrt is based on musl, which ignores DST 
for that TZ setting (a behavior that POSIX allows). I'm a bit curious as 
to what's going on there.


> So I have to use EST5EDT,M3.2.0/2:00:00,M11.1.0/2:00:00
> for the timezone.  (The explicit /2:00:00 might be avoidable, but the
> use of self documenting data can be beneficial.)

For a fully self-documented TZ setting you could use this:

<EST>+05:00:00<EDT>+04:00:00,M3.2.0/+02:00:00,M11.1.0/+02:00:00

However, this sort of thing tends to be error-prone; e.g., suppose I 
forgot a colon?

'zic' attempts to generate the shortest equivalent TZ setting. On my 
machine /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York ends with this equivalent:

EST5EDT,M3.2.0,M11.1.0

which I find more readable. I'm used to TZ strings, though, so that 
colors my opinion.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-08 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87edcqv69m.fsf@hope.eyrie.org>
2024-03-05  3:52 ` Đoàn Trần Công Danh
2024-03-05  4:31   ` Paul Eggert
2024-03-05 20:12   ` Rich Felker
2024-03-05 20:56     ` Russ Allbery
2024-03-05 21:37       ` [musl] Re: [tz] [musl] " Guy Harris
2024-03-05 22:03         ` Russ Allbery
2024-03-05 22:12           ` Guy Harris
2024-03-05 22:31             ` Russ Allbery
2024-03-06 15:39               ` James Cloos
2024-03-08 17:46                 ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2024-03-08 19:02                   ` [musl] Re: [tz] " Rich Felker
2024-03-09  0:09                     ` James Cloos
2024-03-09  1:57                     ` [musl] Re: [tz] [musl] " Guy Harris
2024-03-08 18:39                 ` Guy Harris
2024-03-08 19:05                   ` [musl] Re: [tz] " Paul Eggert
2024-03-09  0:03                   ` [musl] " James Cloos
2024-03-06  0:47     ` [musl] Re: [tz] " Paul Eggert
2024-03-06  1:54       ` Rich Felker

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