From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from second.openwall.net (second.openwall.net [193.110.157.125]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DE032522B for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2024 11:27:37 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 9238 invoked by uid 550); 7 Mar 2024 10:23:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Received: (qmail 8179 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2024 10:23:37 -0000 From: James Cloos To: Cc: , Russ Allbery , Guy Harris , Rich Felker In-Reply-To: <87msrcpayi.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> (Russ Allbery's message of "Tue, 05 Mar 2024 14:31:33 -0800") References: <87edcqv69m.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <20240305201247.GE4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <87wmqgpfcq.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <87r0gopc9g.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> <77902F3C-198B-49BD-AB75-383A7FF45548@sonic.net> <87msrcpayi.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2024 James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6; url=https://jhcloos.com/public_key/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2024 10:39:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: [musl] Re: Weird PST8PDT and EST5EDT behavior on Alpine Linux >>>>> "RA" == Russ Allbery writes: RA> and it's probably time to assume everyone supports the Olson RA> identifiers. Operwrt, at least in general, does not. (Nor does aix, if anyone still cares.) I have a clock (actual hw clock) which uses ntp by way of an embedded mips board running a version of openwrt. It lack the ram and storage to use tzdb. So I have to use EST5EDT,M3.2.0/2:00:00,M11.1.0/2:00:00 for the timezone. (The explicit /2:00:00 might be avoidable, but the use of self documenting data can be beneficial.) I mention aix above because their docs were the top of the search results when I needed a reminder of the details of non-Olson syntax. It had, of course, been more than a decade since I'd last used or even seen EST5EDT anywhere before I had to work out the above. (I must say it was a bit anoying that the library kept the original definition of EST5EDT et alia rathar than moving with the legislation. But only a bit.) -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: https://jhcloos.com/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc