From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from cgl.ntg.nl (Cgl.ntg.nl [5.39.185.202]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED21E213AA for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:21:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E114843F4 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:20:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cgl.ntg.nl Authentication-Results: cgl.ntg.nl (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=mailbox.org Received: from cgl.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cgl.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id me6v0T4Yiu3T for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:20:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cgl.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61904845A8 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:19:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2379B484001 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:18:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cgl.ntg.nl Received: from cgl.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cgl.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XnttPO_3mX5G for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:18:52 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=80.241.56.152; helo=mout-p-102.mailbox.org; envelope-from=denismaier@mailbox.org; receiver= Received: from mout-p-102.mailbox.org (mout-p-102.mailbox.org [80.241.56.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAB73483FF9 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:18:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp202.mailbox.org (smtp202.mailbox.org [10.196.197.202]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-102.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4VQzwB6QvJz9sWl; Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:18:50 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailbox.org; s=mail20150812; t=1714151930; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=x2ICQXsn48xKuumT0FL7fMm78+TS0tBBZg6pvNsjc6A=; b=EacZhjk60+D/7l90tZZvLHpBg3jO9s4Vkch4zBMazeqNm8A+HAb3wV6Wolzt12QTtWiL9l 289RAI4ur0OiZumevkyel27SrHCewCJ3EK1zjVYWGryW1H7yMCxoipNBtFU1aN40UqhQjt UChST7bEO7E+utbvhkt2YaDzKCit4uKtYNWT8VC8JWXdDfMUCWCvnJBa0sTuG0FmI//rjR sLGKIj75O7BALouKqsqJpOHqbrUUwNjfgw3pBr0SMARgvb1NtnFXtrXvheR67ZnoS7F/UJ aerRLKLEzYxCDbNZk6RZakmit8KWXMXEE1bzF8pfdxhsviQ7cj9ypcbCp+4JwQ== Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 19:18:50 +0200 (CEST) To: Wolfgang Schuster , mailing list for ConTeXt users Message-ID: <162595028.64485.1714151930562@office.mailbox.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20cc60cc-3bd6-b7ea-ae66-0bd1f0bbff6c@gmx.es> <1451407626.61216.1714147831677@office.mailbox.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MBO-RS-META: qntp56orues9ftgymdukpdddkq3t5nqp X-MBO-RS-ID: 4a7e27d793840c876df Message-ID-Hash: 6V2IW52MSIWDRKT55RY5DHBNM3YHL5W2 X-Message-ID-Hash: 6V2IW52MSIWDRKT55RY5DHBNM3YHL5W2 X-MailFrom: denismaier@mailbox.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: [NTG-context] Re: \par and \startlines List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Denis Maier via ntg-context Cc: Denis Maier Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============3915578958769562026==" --===============3915578958769562026== Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20
 
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Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> hat am 26.0= 4.2024 18:24 CEST geschrieben:
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Denis Maier via ntg-context schrieb am 26.04.2024 um 18:10:
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Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> hat am 26.04.2024 17:25 CEST geschrieben:
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On 4/26/24 15:33, denis.maier= @unibe.ch wrote:
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Hi,
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I=E2=80=99m trying to typeset a poem from XML, but I can=E2=80=99t f= igure out how to
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make the inbetween key working here.
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As the source is XML, I cannot just add an empty line to start a new
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group of lines inside \startlines=E2=80=A6\stoplines. I guess, there= must be a
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command to do that, but \par seems to have no effect here.
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How can this be done?
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Hi Denis,
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I must confess I don=E2=80=99t get which is your actual question.
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\blank works here and you know that (since you included it in your co= de).
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MkIV with \par works in your sample and LMTX with \par doesn=E2=80=99= t.
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I wonder whether this might be a bug in LMTX.
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Thanks for your answer and sorry for not being clearer. I was just won= dering why the \par seems to have no effect. (I first guessed that it might= be related to XML, to but then realized it happens with context markup as = well. Usually, you won't run into this because an empty line works, but wit= h XML that's not am option.) As you've said, it looks like a bug then.
 
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The lines environment treats each line of the input as paragraph by = adding \par at the end of it and adding another \par makes no difference he= re.

BTW: ConTeXt has a module for poems which can be loaded with \usemod= ule[format].

Wolfgang

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Ok. I'll have a look at this module. Just two questions:
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Denis 
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