From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, XM_ONE_WORD autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from cgl.ntg.nl (Cgl.ntg.nl [5.39.185.202]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F782150F for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2024 20:04:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEB948499C for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2024 20:03:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cgl.ntg.nl Authentication-Results: cgl.ntg.nl (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=ca.rr.com Received: from cgl.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cgl.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yOPhQt638kor for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2024 20:03:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cgl.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1E7484791 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2024 20:02:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25CA548474E for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2024 20:01:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cgl.ntg.nl Received: from cgl.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cgl.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VQZN1A3CGOtE for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2024 20:01:38 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=47.43.26.140; helo=p-impout009.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net; envelope-from=urban.m@ca.rr.com; receiver= X-Greylist: delayed 430 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at cgl.ntg.nl; Sun, 28 Apr 2024 20:01:38 CEST Received: from p-impout009.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net (p-impout009aa.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net [47.43.26.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B32148474D for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2024 20:01:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([52.86.171.38]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id 18jGsd2wvJvkF18jHsMCPm; Sun, 28 Apr 2024 17:54:23 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ca.rr.com; s=c20240129; t=1714326863; bh=QqCW8I2S2tb8AgofF0cwtJjLDb31ZIQ/jGmXLrUzzq0=; h=From:To:Subject:Date; b=IxnfUoLjv3bD5prwdvbC86OM3tcTUPbIGekJZy2Zag3gulXBMsW/gLpduyy32TKyH PC8xhsR1W95fUjNrUsjmjcV76ykyo+KLJYRolaJTfgEgtznJSF8FT8eA7+/nTE2CA0 47wxzDdhEm1aMzvfJ/w/Z8c8PtHoIgTJx3tZ+GMOmch8WY9Ti1GAGGGLcTj61neNDY u2k8yQVqVG2U90pDjj4Zph5dEs2mTUZf6lw9EGN/xDqokhrJH4p49woAo6L1G9/NTN fQ12QZkZ0qfiqIwZ0kyJw9AYYRANYvYGIpN4i1qMT3n8gE+1iINxKIBly2CCpEGxTw 151CXQXuQRJng== X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=V8p70/ni c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=662e8d4f a=KRKCKI1VKQ4u2uwitZ6MRA==:117 a=KRKCKI1VKQ4u2uwitZ6MRA==:17 a=WgfWNeK48KAA:10 a=LEOsrgFgNDvPboNkiaYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=bzrQpBPMRoDx1K56wsMA:9 a=xcCDxm1xAwmJBv97:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=JvSX2sv4KeiKzdWQBHbP:22 Message-Id: <7ca1d07dc6568b4482041f2974a3a2ffac7d78a2@webmail> From: urban.m@ca.rr.com To: "'ntg-context@ntg.nl'" X-Mailer: Atmail X-Originating-IP: [76.169.81.156] X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2024 17:54:22 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfDlZfGIEQA2ZkCUX2Y8yXH/5jUweVMjANFUw2D6RvOZj1MLam1gg7cXfE4mNUx82/D5e23AD+AKPyXSF3kves0X0waNF6xI9enFeJX4PPX4nbSMBcSXv 9J7115oGcmkYFz/ztid7GD7SWOgPlGlUpHEzLEWvG7XoyY9hRnyg0bfEd//rVukZCnWRepCKWY9Pug== Message-ID-Hash: CQRMMIIVHZNCU3J76T4LQLVJ7SKQN7X7 X-Message-ID-Hash: CQRMMIIVHZNCU3J76T4LQLVJ7SKQN7X7 X-MailFrom: urban.m@ca.rr.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: [NTG-context] Why Difference Between \placefloat and \definefloat List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1663953997641360137==" --===============1663953997641360137== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_2d1761abf0c57b54719a6056cd023c80" --=_2d1761abf0c57b54719a6056cd023c80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I swear I used to understand this stuff. I plead old age. Why do I get= =0Atwo different results from the float placements here:=0A=0Adefinefloa= t[mysidebar][mysidebars]=0Asetupfloat[mysidebar][leftmargindistance=3D-.= 25in,rightmargindistance=3D-.25in,outer,none]=0A=0Adefineframedtext [sid= ebartext]=0A[width=3D.4textwidth,bodyfont=3Dsmall,corner=3Dround,backgro= und=3Dcolor,backgroundcolor=3Dlightgray,align=3Dflushleft]=0A=0Astarttex= t=0AThis is a bit of text=0Aplacefloat[sidebar][leftmargindistance=3D-.2= 5in,rightmargindistance=3D-.25in,outer,none]{}{=0Astartsidebartext=0AThi= s is a short sidebar=0Astopsidebartext=0A}=0AAnd something to follow.=0A= =0AA bit of text=0Aplacemysidebar{}{=0Astartsidebartext=0AThis is a shor= t sidebar=0Astopsidebartext=0A}=0AAnd something to follow.=0A=0Astoptext= =0A=0A --=_2d1761abf0c57b54719a6056cd023c80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I swear I used to understand this stuff.  I plead old a= ge.   Why do I get two different results from the float placem= ents here:

\definefloat[mysidebar][mysidebars]
\setupfloat[mys= idebar][leftmargindistance=3D-.25in,rightmargindistance=3D-.25in,outer,n= one]

\defineframedtext [sidebartext]
[width=3D.4\textwidth,bod= yfont=3Dsmall,corner=3Dround,background=3Dcolor,backgroundcolor=3Dlightg= ray,align=3Dflushleft]

\starttext
This is a bit of text
\pl= acefloat[sidebar][leftmargindistance=3D-.25in,rightmargindistance=3D-.25= in,outer,none]{}{
\startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
\st= opsidebartext
}
And something to follow.

A bit of text
\= placemysidebar{}{
\startsidebartext
This is a short sidebar
\st= opsidebartext
}
And something to follow.

\stoptext

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