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[69.109.130.206]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id fj3-20020a05690c330300b00609f893ee94sm410189ywb.127.2024.03.14.13.23.49 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Mar 2024 13:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) From: Earl Baugh In-Reply-To: <72bf032c-a945-4b9d-b0da-2d8e535b5311@oracle.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 16:23:39 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <055B3269-D5F9-4A55-B6FF-0FD7A3CD6E63@gmail.com> References: <72bf032c-a945-4b9d-b0da-2d8e535b5311@oracle.com> To: Alan Coopersmith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) Message-ID-Hash: Q5AG4GX3L5AXLP5NO4OHDS6M2ALB7G3P X-Message-ID-Hash: Q5AG4GX3L5AXLP5NO4OHDS6M2ALB7G3P X-MailFrom: earl.baugh@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Will Senn , tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: SunOS 4 in 2024 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Another reason why it=E2=80=99s fun use the older OS=E2=80=99s. For = old Sun HW, I don=E2=80=99t believe SunView can be beat. It was always very performant for me, and met the basic goals of a = window manager that I needed. (I=E2=80=99m not one that needs a huge amount of customization..) Earl > On Mar 13, 2024, at 8:40=E2=80=AFPM, Alan Coopersmith = wrote: >=20 > On 3/13/24 14:27, Will Senn wrote: >> I recently saw that Solaris 11.4 SRU66 was released and had a = yearning to see how things in Solaris land were doing (can't stand Gnome = so OpenIndiana's a bust)... >=20 > You might not find Solaris much more to your liking then, since = Solaris 11.0 > and later only include the GNOME desktop. (Solaris 2.6 through 10 also = had > CDE, and Solaris 1.0 through 8 also had OpenWindows.) In Solaris = 11.4, it's > GNOME 3 - up to GNOME 41 in SRU 66. >=20 > OpenIndiana went with MATE instead of GNOME 3, and I believe has some = other > desktop choices as well. The Tribblix distro of illumos offers a = choice of > Xfce, Mate, OpenCDE, or Enlightenment on top of the same core OS = derived from > OpenSolaris. >=20 >> but with Oracle's Solaris, it's a mess at least for hobbyists (only = get release patches, so I'm guessing the most up to date 'release' was = 11.4 in 2018). >=20 > There's also the "CBE" release from 2022 to allow people building open = source > to build & test on a somewhat newer base: > = https://blogs.oracle.com/solaris/post/announcing-the-first-oracle-solaris-= 114-cbe >=20 > It's roughly equivalent to a beta build of Solaris 11.4 SRU 42. = (Solaris 11.4 > issues "Support Repository Updates" or SRUs around once a month, so = the SRU > number is basically the count of the number of months after August = 2018 that > a given SRU was released.) >=20 > But yeah, if you want to stay up to date, you need a support contract. >=20 > --=20 > -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@oracle.com > Oracle Solaris Engineering - https://blogs.oracle.com/solaris >=20