From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F119326390 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 00:49:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4C343148; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:49:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F0BE543147 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:49:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 5C4FC35E919; Thu, 7 Mar 2024 15:49:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 15:49:21 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Dave Horsfall Message-ID: <20240307234921.GO2252@mcvoy.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: 4JNJHSZ5RMNKZQK4GZAZQQG5ODE2GZN2 X-Message-ID-Hash: 4JNJHSZ5RMNKZQK4GZAZQQG5ODE2GZN2 X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: History of non-Bell C compilers? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 10:39:20AM +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote: > On Thu, 7 Mar 2024, Warner Losh wrote: > > > MIT had several that were used for ka9q and at least the Venix x86 port. > > They supported the popular micros of the time. Various versions of them > > survive to the present day. > > That reminds me: there was the Hi-Tech C Compiler for the Z-80 (CP/M); it > was full ANSI (unlike BDS C which barely supported C). Some people like to hate on BDS C, I'm not one of them. It was a very fast compiler compared to other C compilers (Turbo Pascal was a lot faster, I remain impressed with that speed to this day). My memory is BDS C did C just fine, but had a very non standard standard I/O library. I had relearn stdio when I got to Unix. But I never had a problem with it not compiling C.