On 2/8/21 9:58 PM, M Douglas McIlroy wrote: >> Do they *really* want something which is just V7 Unix, with nothing else? >> No TCP/IP, no hot-plug USB support? No web browsing? >> Oh, you wanted more than that? Feature bloat! Feature bloat! >> Feature bloat! Shame! Shame! Shame! > % ls /usr/share/man/man2|wc > 495 495 7230 > % ls /bin|wc > 2809 2809 30468 > > How many of roughly 500 system calls (to say nothing of uncounted > ioctl's) do you think are necessary for writing those few crucial > capabilities that distinguish Linux from v7? There is > undeniably bloat, but only a sliver of it contributes to the > distinctive utility of today's systems. > > Or consider this. Unix grew by about 39 system calls in its first > decade, but an average of 40 > per decade ever since. Is this accelerated growth more symptomatic of > maturity or of cancer? > > Doug I couldn't have said it better. I was looking at 'man syscalls' and shaking my head just a couple of days ago. I also just thought, hey, wouldn't it be nice to get a printed copy of the latest manpages - uh, that ain't gonna happen - 3000+ manpages, sheesh. Not sure I was thinking 'man widget_toolbar' would provide me with any deep insights anyway, maybe that's why its in mann. Will