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You might not find Solaris much more to your liking then, since Solaris 11.0 and later only include the GNOME desktop. (Solaris 2.6 through 10 also had CDE, and Solaris 1.0 through 8 also had OpenWindows.) In Solaris 11.4, it's GNOME 3 - up to GNOME 41 in SRU 66. OpenIndiana went with MATE instead of GNOME 3, and I believe has some other desktop choices as well. The Tribblix distro of illumos offers a choice of Xfce, Mate, OpenCDE, or Enlightenment on top of the same core OS derived from OpenSolaris. > but with Oracle's Solaris, it's a mess at least for hobbyists (only get > release patches, so I'm guessing the most up to date 'release' was 11.4 in > 2018). There's also the "CBE" release from 2022 to allow people building open source to build & test on a somewhat newer base: https://blogs.oracle.com/solaris/post/announcing-the-first-oracle-solaris-114-cbe It's roughly equivalent to a beta build of Solaris 11.4 SRU 42. (Solaris 11.4 issues "Support Repository Updates" or SRUs around once a month, so the SRU number is basically the count of the number of months after August 2018 that a given SRU was released.) But yeah, if you want to stay up to date, you need a support contract. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@oracle.com Oracle Solaris Engineering - https://blogs.oracle.com/solaris