From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B833A29E18 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2024 00:53:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6B64332E; Sat, 9 Mar 2024 09:53:35 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1709942015; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-owner:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post; bh=esxNG6FU3Gwo9PNfNLH0A6v9naFHx8K3amXlvIexfWA=; b=Y6jpPYa48BYk/Pz+kIzx4JzYj6BBBR1woAy0egogdu3i+f/to0CcXkNL3uFanJIAp/YVgb mxm/nA79ksE0wZztMh8U5dhDiM/Z7gRLEzRjgCbh8q8XSkWnZJVkXPhoDERyCVmQmGdPGs mg2G+qO5svq0F/G2ApQ/nfe86k2lyRI= Received: from mail.jfloren.net (mail.jfloren.net [166.84.7.104]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5F743329 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2024 09:53:28 +1000 (AEST) Received: from thufir (108-84-157-49.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [108.84.157.49]) by mail.jfloren.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DBC7D1EBEC for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 18:53:25 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=jfloren.net; s=2023; t=1709942006; bh=esxNG6FU3Gwo9PNfNLH0A6v9naFHx8K3amXlvIexfWA=; h=References:From:To:Subject:Date:In-reply-to; b=OnBeMkEpsbfNXQjkiD0TIuVJm1A+MqE6GVOXO47329Ue+kknspdxUkHU+KKStezJF 5+Mfx/bK9HZ89QTO5G66lXzmJKDkt+MOFloeReiQkIQxtgxgXr+vq26OBfD+qRU4Ga KeR2MAGTJZ5CEknzKrPvw9JOhbzx+K3Q8eZ6sghY= References: <9eb334edeb7568193000f8755704af7799169b17.camel@gmail.com> <789486d8dae3335166640461f7885bf9cf6043cf.camel@gmail.com> <20240308034259.GS2252@mcvoy.com> User-agent: mu4e 1.8.13; emacs 28.2 To: tuhs@tuhs.org Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2024 15:50:40 -0800 In-reply-to: Message-ID: <87h6hg2scs.fsf@thufir.floren.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID-Hash: UH2UO6BKCGO7Q7O7VS5R5HAETZQOOY6S X-Message-ID-Hash: UH2UO6BKCGO7Q7O7VS5R5HAETZQOOY6S X-MailFrom: john@jfloren.net X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: FreeBSD kernel not OK? (was: What do you currently use for your primary OS at home?) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: John Floren via TUHS Reply-To: John Floren Will Senn writes: [snip] > restore. GUI? KDE and Xfce work... not my faves, but better than Gnome > for my taste. My only gripe with it is that I run a huge number of [snip] Ok so I've always been confused by how often I see this come up... don't FreeBSD, and Debian, and Ubuntu, and Redhat, and OpenBSD, etc. all ship a huge variety of window managers and desktop environments right there in the package manager? I guess I haven't run Gnome in 15 years but everything else I ever want (fvwm, xfce, stumpwm, twm, KDE) is always available with a quick install command. I remember for a long time people would talk about how they were going to install Xubuntu or Kubuntu or Lubuntu because they didn't like the Gnome interface on Ubuntu... blow away your whole root partition rather than run "apt-get install kde"? john