From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75C92858B for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 01:45:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC7E428BB; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:44:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-pf1-x432.google.com (mail-pf1-x432.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::432]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B11C342877 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:44:50 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-pf1-x432.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-6e622b46f45so406085b3a.1 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:44:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1710377089; x=1710981889; darn=tuhs.org; h=mime-version:message-id:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=5AxYPa748QPDFZ9X/pSjikUqJ7tB3OLEwxUuvF/kVtI=; b=U/+8HlbcPT1GMh8BOkBgwrBPRdmYJw0rY4Ndqi6b+96EPSFFasO6bMBnGIQqRuN0zI IdFRcHs1XNpNqlazGMHBzOKbF/FvidweAEQqxQhDoCo1wJ1wg2j6tXPikeK4bzjXJ1zo BnJN+1cq/ILhQa/2C594DRVP6F1f6gPPXynovYtdMP3e7Cv6Fbf+p6mf58MuMREjublv Y2plKWHAOrpQV0+LtOENvbf6D7B5h/+mvxbuzt6XO2+qJiNXemk7l6f2rddhRhRaUVmB 1WSEXAdahWWnOC21o6inDWHvWc00uZX44Nlrqo48Jb/jOa7dOSQB+BYu3aLB7YsJTrh2 wkxw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1710377089; x=1710981889; h=mime-version:message-id:date:user-agent:references:in-reply-to :subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=5AxYPa748QPDFZ9X/pSjikUqJ7tB3OLEwxUuvF/kVtI=; b=ZMgqjyKScw2gicrE+52C0H0/TZdWmVlGDWrytOLjIijEV/hEffhmblWZJCQFGVUfkO KZlWLypNmhMu5kZ9ymG02BsvWxL5jkuhV8s0HWZl3S17wDkLCbkPL1EgCxp7kzPs5CxJ QupxA+znzUvEnJUKRMQF91ou07XfIA1VQhY4U+j1r/Fj366qq/T24k6lLaoL5QiPmI7z l8xPsWzXBTxZF9uABBBqP7yy689gHtd9O7mPL0b3iNVIIc+olsWuIRAdulL06Ln4dP5b zzi+QY832Dn0wnw/zLSJWYLfPhIRULFTu0wYyLJQWlINhxglDdFOORYWy1UlAj3CwD+p qA7g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwoQYw8GBiQyRcJmB7K/YSScTgSBgMRTVwQKIQAMT5k8nGZ2FbC z8IG2Xd0y2F3TOYZ01/BbXFqkXjEnJc1Q9+98L0kD1xbn6N0lEO6OVsVV4iZ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHvGhlIV0UIMn00JJQD6wrOgYzL7EBc79+0Ol16vtm0rwNwCHlAz2VDV1ju0xEibk6heNh9dQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:1828:b0:6e5:ec63:95ce with SMTP id y40-20020a056a00182800b006e5ec6395cemr419031pfa.10.1710377089556; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:44:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([120.21.56.127]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id fn15-20020a056a002fcf00b006e091a254adsm214976pfb.30.2024.03.13.17.44.48 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:44:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Alexis To: tuhs@tuhs.org In-Reply-To: (Henry Bent's message of "Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:39:33 -0400") References: <87h6h93e4q.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: mu4e 1.12.0; emacs 29.2 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 11:44:45 +1100 Message-ID: <87zfv11w1u.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID-Hash: N3BT5ED37WAOIK4Z5EYR7NCP343QTSNK X-Message-ID-Hash: N3BT5ED37WAOIK4Z5EYR7NCP343QTSNK X-MailFrom: flexibeast@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: SunOS 4 in 2024 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Henry Bent writes: > Now, I find that there is a fragmentation happening. There are > those > of us > who still cling to mailing lists - like this one! - and those > who > are > willing to navigate the realms of increasingly compartmentalized > other > forms of community, Discord included. The fact that there is not > a > recognized central repository of unpaid support for a product, > like > sun-managers, I find to be frustrating. i basically agree. i won't dwell on this too much further because i recognise that i'm going off-topic, list-wise, but: i think part of the problem is related to different people having different preferences around the interfaces they want/need for discussions. What's happened is that - for reasons i feel are typically due to a lock-in-oriented business model - many discussion systems don't provide different interfaces/'views' to the same underlying discussions. Which results in one community on platform X, another community on platform Y, another community on platform Z .... Whereas, for example, the 'Rocksolid Light' BBS/forum software provides a Web-based interface to an underlying NNTP-based system, such that people can use their NNTP clients to engage in forum discussions. i wish this sort of approach was more common. Alexis.