From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44662BD4E for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 01:33:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808FC42806; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:33:36 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1710376416; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=CoESjDN37jvzEdQnPRq4vY7jBLoKkZZH9SnepywPKpg=; b=fWkzJ3WqaY9snkArUiQU7EJGIAJ0Mu0CRJ4xwMODWb7k0q//C78ZgGxkv590wVzToFMfFx WhFSMKuyS9MzrIMgQqw7RfelA9le7EfIIuFuJVfkcKnEiv/+CXHBntjK6Ovfip6aMsTRot 4bv9RA6MaQFAqq7v7KkBz694eh6c6eg= Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch (mail-4325.protonmail.ch [185.70.43.25]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 014DC427D0 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:33:30 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1710376407; x=1710635607; bh=CoESjDN37jvzEdQnPRq4vY7jBLoKkZZH9SnepywPKpg=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date: Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=vJcdzltSrRBj57XysVpdx4prm9IDqguuv9U8PyyMMPtQE7FZdCNSbZ9j8K2XkLik4 Ea9zOZeJnsUMuDvMID6kC+aKsyRz744o7nB7ZwhNj8YNet05Ffkzgzi7QoQL6+R4w8 psMBIItHPjJlnTyftVRSNRedQP/PWZiT54ZHnEfkVWrizpiCNCMkQ4McrGA9lA5yfw jj+XnTjKiO8EU8elLPuyJ5Cg5v2GIMtgTPFxTjBx868NSzN1rzumPOa6zC7fbycQkC iS3mL5tU08YBCTv2oOXsyb0vSaTxOPGrWIVEJkDyXsNnkwi4hLD55FyuaknUB5jtVW LX8lTpntYxcXg== Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:33:06 +0000 To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society Message-ID: <9oGrJHb6s-fL1f5PDMKtnl-JN1Rea-AeDxEgkFiqJgAWEt7v6WUauLschmaq0ESqCnyAXwepvx7DKq9W6u3VRb8J5I8GJF7VmIpl87cy3-A=@protonmail.com> Feedback-ID: 35591162:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID-Hash: DHARXAMACJTWAN4YCO54DDRXPID2FB7D X-Message-ID-Hash: DHARXAMACJTWAN4YCO54DDRXPID2FB7D X-MailFrom: segaloco@protonmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Is OpenText Corporation the Current System V Copyright Holder? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: segaloco via TUHS Reply-To: segaloco Did some reading today, curious on the current state of things with AT&T's = UNIX copyright genealogy. The series of events as I understand it are: AT&T partners with Novell for the Univel initiative. Novell then acquires System V and USL from AT&T. Novell sells UNIX System V's source to SCO, but as the courts have ruled, n= ot the copyright. Novell gets purchased by Microfocus. Microfocus gets purchased by OpenText Corporation. Does this make OpenText the current copyright holders of the commercial UNI= X line from AT&T. What got me looking a bit closer into this is curiosity regarding how the o= pening of Solaris and the CDDL may impact publication of UNIX code between = System III and SVR4. I then felt the need to refresh on who might be the c= urrent copyright holder and this is where the trail has lead me. My understanding too is that Sun's release under the CDDL set the precedent= that other sub-licencees of System V codebases are also at liberty to reli= cense their codebases, but this may be reading too far into it. There's al= so the concern that the ghost of SCO will continue to punish anyone else wh= o tries with costly-but-doomed-to-fail litigation. Have there been any hap= penings lately with regards to getting AT&T UNIX post-PDP-11 opened up more= in the world? Reading up a bit on OpenText's business, they don't seem li= ke they're invested in the OS world, seems that their primary sector is con= tent management. Granted, there's certainly under-the-radar trading of bit= s and pieces, but it would be nice to have some more certainty about what c= an happen out in the open. - Matt G.