Andrew - can't speak for the original, but the BTL version was red and orange and was perfect bound. But, I was not on 11x17 - it must have been printed on A3 paper, as copying was always a little funny (maybe it was on traditional 'green bar' size 14 7/8 x 11 - I don't remember - but my copy of the original was on US 11x17). Ordering it originally was difficult. I remember that we tried to order a copy for Tektronix in the summer/fall of 1979 because I had my n-th generation xerographic copy that I had brought from CMU and Tek wanted to legitimate copy. IIRC, I wrote the PO request and it bounced back from Tek purchasing because it had been denied by somebody at AT&T. We had to call the right person (Al Arms if memory serves me), and then I had the restart on the Tek side, but we did eventually get an official version - which as on my desk for a few years [Of course, we immediately made more copies -- I think I made them for Steve Glaser, Mike Zuhl, Ward Cunningham and possibly Jon if he did not yet have a copy from his BTL days]. When I left Tek I gave the original Tektronix copy of the two books to Terry Laskodi. I have wondered what happened to that copy after he tragically died in the early 1980s. I fear it was tossed by someone that had no idea what its value was. Clem On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 2:44 AM Andrew Hume wrote: > i was a TA for the course which used this as a textbook. > my memory is little faded on this (it was on the other side of my stroke), > but i believe they were perfect bound (cloth strip and glue) and had > two different colors for the covers (i want to say orange and red). > they might have been just stapled but they were thick enough that staples > might have been insufficient. > > i certainly remember john printing them off on the DEC printer. > > as for the permissions, i can’t recall anything at the time (this was > about 45 years ago), > but do remember the fuss at the Labs when Bell Labs started printing their > own > high security copies just a couple of years later. > > andrew hume > > > On Nov 1, 2020, at 9:07 PM, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > > > Warner Losh and I have been discussing the early history of John > > Lions' "A commentary on the Sixth Edition UNIX Operating System". > > I've been hosting Warren Toomey's version (with some correction of > > scan errors) at http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/Lions/ for > > some years now, and my understanding had been that the book hadn't > > been published, just photocopied, until Warren posted it on > > alt.folklore.computers in 1994. But now it seems that the "book" had > > been published by UNSW when Lions held the course, and only later was > > the license revoked. Does anybody have any insights? What > > restrictions were there on its distribution? What was the format? > > Was it a real book, or just bound notes? > > > > Greg > > -- > > Sent from my desktop computer. > > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. > > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. > > This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program > > reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA > >