From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D66302546A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2024 16:41:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673C1428CC; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 01:40:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ua1-x935.google.com (mail-ua1-x935.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::935]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44746428CB for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 01:40:52 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ua1-x935.google.com with SMTP id a1e0cc1a2514c-7d5cbc4a585so439470241.3 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:40:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ccc.com; s=google; t=1709826051; x=1710430851; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=0ukdUxO65YILIXBB1GpbWxI08cqwZa8Zh6W4wKtV3QM=; b=mCXmRevdUMr+p1yieL7vLaT0c7Fph+H1dRPAijy3J0rmUKAoSBdWx/diRyhctPsZwY mpo7x+/bYq4APRSW+qt/5d2QZuMq59+LF8bKiravdMSTHXWODq/6Zes/nrMGzyH8fFJk bgBYoL+wojs28otxyA7GXy3D5qqMNB8de6qCI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1709826051; x=1710430851; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=0ukdUxO65YILIXBB1GpbWxI08cqwZa8Zh6W4wKtV3QM=; b=vXWM+TvEQsRu4vgyjphnb2XXCa0AY3/wWK85hwEHZaOFPu6hd9yPsu9ZSz2T+TSDqf fNZlkGJLleIPO8WJDKP1tISVb15hp8kSz+mTMYX7JKpRoSFn40xIOw1/mRUxj3higMBQ NjZSYokCxcWrziOWvZnj2CgD3hIXLmpNcAWhd1Q1OZKmKtUPEqHCa9Oxv6of2XgUoM9y rQCIml53dkLE1+/qrq7NKWtvSEn+0ZRe/jy4e/ovPoxLvi2ymUnE+xOXWVMV3odnBQ7y u6FaITkSWXLQAgy/c3Yq8u9RNyJYmPBmDn6qeaKjqY5/XRn0AiP0C73jiuTZi2u/d2eN Qxdw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzQz6it2x+jFmDwlXWdZBw15rdPzicRV+9oMatAQdb9860fV0Aj AqueegIsqLzSyL690e/GEqc6MtDdOhNUjLQtwobmGad3pW2yndajdFhGa6Z6pv9uIcxEPeFpHKS QkjdEkH8fl0cVFnSYZ0C8Y+PVar43ElwLSCDz X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGLPoziv/DZMSfiwt/xDgBtThQD7QmJU0DtAMYB2mgHNAiPDjZAFevlsy7vVD2lnxxbhKfjOgiqLaD0F7jPfz4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:9a9:b0:4b6:d63c:ca8f with SMTP id g41-20020a05612209a900b004b6d63cca8fmr7848915vkd.16.1709826051063; Thu, 07 Mar 2024 07:40:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9eb334edeb7568193000f8755704af7799169b17.camel@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9eb334edeb7568193000f8755704af7799169b17.camel@gmail.com> From: Clem Cole Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 10:40:14 -0500 Message-ID: To: jeffryrabramson@gmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000066df85061313e66e" Message-ID-Hash: GLCUU4ERFKVJWEX2VOOBXQ2E4FKDIMMB X-Message-ID-Hash: GLCUU4ERFKVJWEX2VOOBXQ2E4FKDIMMB X-MailFrom: clemc@ccc.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: What do you currently use for your primary OS at home? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --00000000000066df85061313e66e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Like Marc Donner, my primary system, UNIX or otherwise, in which I'm typing this message, is a current late model MacPro (arm/Sonoma) - which I switched to Apple's UNIX flavor about 20+ years ago and have yet to look back. That said, I have almost every OS that runs on x86 from different Linux flavors and BSDs, plus lots of different I/O controllers for conversion in my basement. Further, I also have a number of historical (non-Intel or Arm-based) computers on my different ethernets. FWIW: I also have a ton of SCSI equipment that's either on a FreeBSD Box (most often), or I have a RATOC SCSI to USB2 controller cable that 'just works' on my Mac and/or any x86 laptop I have around. It is known to talk to the disks as well as recently discussed Archive Viper QIC drives. That said, I've never tried the USB to SCSI cable with a Linux -- only MacOS and Winders (I never needed to use it with anything else). Also, I have never tried that interface with 9-track, which is on the FreeBSD systems SCSI chain driven by an on-motherboard Adaptec PCI to SCSI. The only real issue I have had trying to use SCSI peripherals with MacOS is that traditional BSD is not included in the last N versions of the Apple developers tool kit, making a compilation of old tape-based C code a PITA. Still, if you install the controller and can manage to rebuild -- it all seems to work fine. Clem =E1=90=A7 =E1=90=A7 =E1=90=A7 --00000000000066df85061313e66e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Like Marc Donner, my primary system, UNIX or otherwise,= in which I'm typing this message, is a current late model MacPro (arm/= Sonoma) - which I switched to Apple's UNIX flavor about 20+ years ago a= nd have yet to look back. That said, I have almost every OS that runs on x8= 6 from different Linux flavors and BSDs, plus lots of different I/O control= lers for conversion in my=C2=A0basement.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Further, I also have a= number of historical (non-Intel or Arm-based) computers on my different et= hernets.=C2=A0 =C2=A0FWIW: I also have a ton of SCSI equipment that's e= ither=C2=A0on a FreeBSD Box (most often), or I have a RATOC SCSI to USB2 co= ntroller cable that 'just works' on my Mac and/or any x86 laptop I = have around.=C2=A0 It is known=C2=A0to talk to the disks as well as recentl= y discussed Archive Viper QIC drives. That said, I've never tried the= =C2=A0USB to SCSI cable with a Linux -- only MacOS and Winders (I never nee= ded to use it with anything else).=C2=A0 =C2=A0Also, I have never tried tha= t interface with 9-track, which is on the FreeBSD systems SCSI chain driven= by an on-motherboard Adaptec PCI to SCSI. The only real issue I have had t= rying to=C2=A0use SCSI peripherals with MacOS is that traditional BSD <s= ys/mtio.h> is not included in the last N versions of the Apple developer= s tool kit, making a compilation of old tape-based C code a PITA. Still, if= you install the controller and can manage to rebuild -- it all seems to wo= rk fine.

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