Hi all (and TUHS), The Third Edition rand(III) page [1] ends with WARNING The author of this routine has been writing random-number generators for many years and has never been known to write one that worked. My understanding is that Ken wrote the rand implementation. But I'm curious about the origin of this warning. I had assumed that Ken wrote it as a combination warning+joke, but Rob suggested that to him it didn't sound like Ken and perhaps Doug or Dennis had written it. Does anyone remember? Separately, I am trying to find out what the very first Unix rand implementation was. In the TUHS archives, the incomplete V2 sources contain a reference to srand in cmd/bas0.s [2], but there is no definition in the tree. The V3 man pages list it, but as far as I can tell full library sources do not appear in the TUHS archives until the V6 snapshot. The V6 rand [3] is: rand: mov r1,-(sp) mov ranx,r1 mpy $13077.,r1 add $6925.,r1 mov r1,r0 mov r0,ranx bic $100000,r0 mov (sp)+,r1 rts pc Perhaps this is the original rand as well? It is hard to imagine a much simpler one, other than perhaps removing the addition, but doing so would create a sequence of only odd numbers. From the man page description it sounds like this has to be the original generator, perhaps with different constants. Thanks! Best, Russ [1] https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/Research-V3/man/man3/rand.3 [2] https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/Research-V2/cmd/bas0.s [3] https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/Research-V6/usr/source/s3/rand.s