From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CADC241CD for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:39:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1147D42812; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 09:39:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-lj1-x236.google.com (mail-lj1-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::236]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 315C04280F for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2024 09:39:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-lj1-x236.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2d475b6609eso3659171fa.2 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:39:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1710373186; x=1710977986; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zU9vDfLzzv5zmzlY3QgYfBUf6Pye1ZXQjYiWNTuL30c=; b=DFL7u4WiSUSW47+YPKcY7rJ85jbcBdj/ac5BB4gpyXv3MnJf4TWa8ixS6WWguZPNRR lv/D+/jUooHEB/puYCxC9JHy93WAx+sITf0mH3tlsrnfxsXnQ3cKkIcbiJmR/grwRq2d dXnc8q2EjSUB0sSFvzXcJhw+WQia30s4wTsK0ZqK2CXeuMuvr+p1qI5IqsKQmeDRkmEA QgI/4TxdaUO/fwUWYEtP5Vum1f3JLlDlRr+jI+FhOjAZUn4AuT1BQrH6shzsaR3izZdG tEMct0lNfh18gQEpcc6eiiVQELFQ0VVaYFXdG1VBJ+NrOJqAYYH6Z+olDzq8CHtmPrGi mq9g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1710373186; x=1710977986; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=zU9vDfLzzv5zmzlY3QgYfBUf6Pye1ZXQjYiWNTuL30c=; b=FVDR3DW3tJZiPlK30UoGgK5urp3zD69Xsv8ArKDprws8LrPksgroi7xXuVL+D3qwQ5 gKJAF+RHr3E48LfbtrX7AqJSH4pF5xliP03chKJcyTzryfjoQ8YMrMfbhtnf4hVAgimc WsMusCpirIBj7SkV15FoWrRD3nRgvEQL4tN+cJM+Yf464kHxpwnG1iW9BoYqG7aK1EXQ xf6cu/Z6H9+RzOpLr4VKs88vFAED/HwBVeEXuv7ZgmXahXzOr+aEwsy7zDylK8wLkLTh NKDLHSPDVU1aXKWnSa7RIlgJLXzy8nKaeu5Nvkq0woKOBByq67gIcCTDDXzcPC0HQ2Y4 cTag== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw/beRiHdQfP9iwDah1Iqa1t8GOFSAYFvjxnw7kIyvEFQSPdI+F WpwWEcsXgY/AF5yXZeDGy1hLRrOa5Th8AYvFRP51byl1NrGDpnioboxfWsU24y3iQzevyyxYYA0 E9Zw27spWFKIYoooYTM+1EnE4Vsl7J8PO X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE5liVMKYuPF4IgVEj4Mlw3woMHP6u8Hj3ffIGBzvfPzzTipxjEmOpYs/AWqPhc01zp6Bzq8Geq+VRzDFezpwQ= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:88d6:0:b0:2d4:529c:f490 with SMTP id a22-20020a2e88d6000000b002d4529cf490mr24841ljk.35.1710373185946; Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:39:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87h6h93e4q.fsf@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87h6h93e4q.fsf@gmail.com> From: Henry Bent Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:39:33 -0400 Message-ID: To: Alexis Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002e8c250613934a43" Message-ID-Hash: B57W4HKP4ZSEZDHEBICWC3FGC56M2N5F X-Message-ID-Hash: B57W4HKP4ZSEZDHEBICWC3FGC56M2N5F X-MailFrom: henry.r.bent@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: SunOS 4 in 2024 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000002e8c250613934a43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 19:29 Alexis wrote: > Henry Bent writes: > > > Thank you, I just subscribed to sun-rescue. I have greybeard > > syndrome > > about Discord - I just don't trust that it's going to be a > > useful resource. > > i'm dismayed by the extent to which so many IT communities have > moved to Discord[a] for documentation and tribal knowledge: Perhaps I should elaborate. The communities I came of age with were Usenet and mailing lists. While not perfect, they were the (almost) universally recognized central repositories of group knowledge, especially if you did not want to pay for support from a manufacturer. Now, I find that there is a fragmentation happening. There are those of us who still cling to mailing lists - like this one! - and those who are willing to navigate the realms of increasingly compartmentalized other forms of community, Discord included. The fact that there is not a recognized central repository of unpaid support for a product, like sun-managers, I find to be frustrating. -Henry --0000000000002e8c250613934a43 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 19:29 Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com> wrote:
Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail.com> writes:=

> Thank you, I just subscribed to sun-rescue.=C2=A0 I have greybeard > syndrome
> about Discord - I just don't trust that it's going to be a > useful resource.

i'm dismayed by the extent to which so many IT communities have
moved to Discord[a] for documentation and tribal knowledge:

Perhaps I should ela= borate. The communities I came of age with were Usenet and mailing lists. W= hile not perfect, they were the (almost) universally recognized central rep= ositories of group knowledge, especially if you did not want to pay for sup= port from a manufacturer.

Now, I find that there is a fragmentation happening. There are those of u= s who still cling to mailing lists - like this one! - and those who are wil= ling to navigate the realms of increasingly compartmentalized other forms o= f community, Discord included. The fact that there is not a recognized cent= ral repository of unpaid support for a product, like sun-managers, I find t= o be frustrating.

-Henry=
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