On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:31 PM Clem Cole wrote: > Amen bro. I always felt that they got added because pascal had something > that C didn’t, and yet it really was not the same. I always felt they were > a feature that was only partly implemented and if they were not going to > be fully typed then just leave them out and use cpp like we had always done > before. > Aww shucks; I actually kinda like enums. When creating sequentially numbered constants, they're convenient. That said, the typing issues I have a lot of sympathy for. For true constants, it's a shame that `const` didn't make it in earlier, though we have it now. Abusing enum to define constants certainly feels like, well, abuse. - Dan C. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:05 PM Larry McVoy wrote: > >> I hate enums. I thought they would be type checked and they are just >> ints. >> I love C but enums suck. >> >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 12:54:27PM +1000, Rob Pike wrote: >> > Another debate at the time was caused by a disagreement between pcc and >> cc >> > regarding enums: are they a type or just a way to declare constant? I >> > remember getting annoyed by pcc not letting me declare a constant with >> an >> > enum and use it as an int. I protested to scj and dmr and after some >> to-ing >> > and fro-ing Steve changed pcc to treat them as constants. >> > >> > Not sure it was the right decision, but C desperately wanted a non-macro >> > way to define a constant. I'd probably argue the same way today. The >> real >> > lesson is how propinquity affects progress. >> > >> > -rbo >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 12:51 PM Rob Pike wrote: >> > >> > > The ability to call a function pointer fp with the syntax fp() rather >> than >> > > (*fp)() came rather late, I think at Bjarne's suggestion or example. >> Pretty >> > > sure it was not in v7 C, as you observe. >> > > >> > > Convenient though the shorthand may be, it always bothered me as >> > > inconsistent and misleading. (I am pretty sure I used it sometimes >> > > regardless.) >> > > >> > > -rob >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 12:48 PM Adam Thornton >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Apr 24, 2020, at 7:37 PM, Charles Anthony < >> charles.unix.pro@gmail.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 7:00 PM Adam Thornton >> > >> wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> This doesn???t like the function pointer. >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >>> $ cc -c choparg.c >> > >>> choparg.c:11: Call of non-function >> > >>> >> > >>> Perhaps: >> > >> >> > >> (*fcn)(arg); >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> We have a winner! >> > >> >> > >> Also, Kartik, dunno where it is on the net, but if you install a v7 >> > >> system, /usr/src/cmd/c >> > >> >> > >> Adam >> > >> >> > >> >> >> -- >> --- >> Larry McVoy lm at mcvoy.com >> http://www.mcvoy.com/lm >> > -- > Sent from a handheld expect more typos than usual >