Fun trivia fact, at least until the mid 90's, the Stanford University Bookstore still had SPARCstations as the machine they sold to students. On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 10:10 AM Tom Lyon wrote: > Prior to Sun, Andy had a company called VLSI Technology, Inc. which > licensed SUN designs to 5-10 companies, including Forward Technology and > CoData, IIRC. The SUN IPR effectively belonged to Andy, but I don't know > what kind of legal arrangement he had with Stanford. But the design was > not generally public, and relied on CAD tools only extant on the Stanford > PDP-10. Cisco did start with the SUN-1 processor, though whether they got > it from Andy or direct from Stanford is not known to me. When Cisco > started (1984), the Sun-1 was long dead already at Sun. > > After both Sun and Cisco, Stanford got serious about holding on to IPR. > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 10:12 PM Jason Stevens < > jsteve@superglobalmegacorp.com> wrote: > >> Is there any solid info on the Stanford SUN boards? I just know the SUN-1 >> was based around them, but they aren't the same thing? And apparently >> cisco >> used them as well but 'borrowed' someone's RTOS design as the basis for >> IOS? >> There was some lawsuit and Stanford got cisco network gear for years for >> free but they couldn't take stock for some reason? >> >> I see more and more of these CP/M SBC's on ebay/online and it seems odd >> that >> there is no 'DIY' SUN boards... Or were they not all that open, hence why >> they kind of disappeared? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jon Steinhart >> To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org >> Sent: 4/8/21 7:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [TUHS] PC Unix >> >> Larry McVoy writes: >> > On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 12:18:04AM +0200, Thomas Paulsen wrote: >> > > >From: John Gilmore >> > > >Sun was making 68000-based systems in 1981, before the IBM PC was >> created. >> > > >> > > Sun was founded on February 24, 1982. The Sun-1 was launched in May >> 1982. >> > > >> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Microsystems >> > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun-1 >> > >> > John may be sort of right, I bet avb was building 68k machines at >> > Stanford before SUN was founded. Sun stood for Stanford University >> > Network I believe. >> > >> > --lm >> >> Larry is correct. I remember visiting a friend of mind, Gary Newman, >> who was working at Lucasfilm in '81. He showed me a bunch of stuff >> that they were doing on Stanford University Network boards. >> >> Full disclosure, it was Gary and Paul Rubinfeld who ended up at DEC >> and I believe was the architect for the microVax who told me about >> the explorer scout post at BTL which is how I met Heinz. >> >> Jon >> > > > -- > - Tom >