From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D5F2B13D for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:24:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF6D43153; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:24:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-vs1-xe35.google.com (mail-vs1-xe35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e35]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31B7A4314E for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:24:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-vs1-xe35.google.com with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-4725acb539cso807410137.3 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 14:24:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dartmouth.edu; s=google1; t=1710537841; x=1711142641; darn=tuhs.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=HHqU0yOoP7ehNRdla7W+SscMBuqjZVcFOm/Vin2ChQk=; b=MopygTFCbovlYKxoblu8CSQ/l1obBgtWvyYwehE5EP8ibto7VRyzGTEMYmU/FRLEYa ArEJ0YHsJhsUOG0zwR9wPceJ3pM++UHAMro8udD9hfWiNoLN8Z3coWnxNo+S0bt5F0E3 LiIgcSwEahzAl01zgN3wyNiMq+6vfow00clugp73XvdjRhI1fxavFpXG8rdKx18zg5j9 2zycAUQjNLiTkv6PHqzNQEsn/IcUg1bCkQs1PK+8JmhR432xB3/YlYlChQ11hidAa/XU QmHXVSmiLL7N4je/7bS1677aHFvk9Ff052O5sNVeRPE9FEsqWZkms1rZHNKzTdkYtOKH VQUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1710537841; x=1711142641; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=HHqU0yOoP7ehNRdla7W+SscMBuqjZVcFOm/Vin2ChQk=; b=TD82rUoQC4PhgVA0v/JJJTEJEmc9yE5hoQ2wt+LC15nxhT58S7OjzqGGU9Ku+fH1s4 TVwGyFYaSv8CmzjWdxggMBRbsmnV6vEfwxU124Us+sFhCX+XR5HAJMDJ6DoLJdV5OBa0 3qO+fGQMKaRDneSjWVp6yA6a/Q7gWb9cNjNOca5u18myMdbs1O9TN/hGWFExdvT9xY8u xIRP6kZYWVS/jANR7j/kPZA/i9S0GiFO0klC0+roUIGTzXe8PiG22oXD9EViyWIlaaU9 ZdMXx8VrGk0p45Ud4G+NPS2C0OR/UZpW0+zyNXqQsm1XqdoWVum2qO6XXa901cs6UaPE dmUg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyqFjO8HlD96FwWEZHftqKNd7eRIYRdp9G2jNnVHUDmx7Lcu7iR RShrKumd7SlvcnDGJ1sD7/Don9MUsfYaruzGjyVX09hXMHHnj8SXyz65pobQmFrNF43/jiw+fn7 5Z6BlbTm9DNkW5uvaG1lal+7hXoQhsQS3EHkzd7JzwH96nNsCzio= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHas1Z7WgIJ0LF8zWPzzglAu4flCniyV/I5JQhPUN0/7M7QMIcmif8c0k0ZC8RUXUqtuYAS+0OpkxfstDWuTTE= X-Received: by 2002:a67:b64b:0:b0:476:5404:5f11 with SMTP id e11-20020a67b64b000000b0047654045f11mr4714988vsm.25.1710537841012; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 14:24:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Douglas McIlroy Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 17:23:44 -0400 Message-ID: To: TUHS main list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000638ed50613b9a01e" Message-ID-Hash: TR3CKS6RICHGOGLCUHYMNKTZUGVRMDCW X-Message-ID-Hash: TR3CKS6RICHGOGLCUHYMNKTZUGVRMDCW X-MailFrom: douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] The Mark Williams Company and Coherent List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --000000000000638ed50613b9a01e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > There was lawyerly concern about the code being stolen. Not always misplaced. There was a guy in Boston who sold Unix look-alike programs. A quick look at the binary revealed perfect correlation with our C source. Coincidentally, DEC had hired this person as a consultant in connection with cross-licensing negotiations with AT&T. Socializing at the end of a day's negotiations, our lawyer somehow managed to turn the conversation to software piracy. He discussed a case he was working on, and happened to have some documents about it in his briefcase. He pulled out a page disassembled binary and a page of source code and showed them to the consultant. After a little study, the consultant confidently opined that the binary was obviously compiled from that source. "Would it surprise you," the lawyer asked, "if I told you that this is yours and that is ours?" The consultant did not attend the following day's meeting. Doug --000000000000638ed50613b9a01e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=C2=A0There was lawyerly concer= n about the code being stolen.

Not always misp= laced. There was a guy in Boston who sold Unix look-alike programs. A quick= look at the binary revealed perfect correlation with our C source. Coincid= entally, DEC had hired this person as a consultant in connection with cross= -licensing negotiations with AT&T. Socializing at the=C2=A0end of a day= 's negotiations,=C2=A0 our lawyer somehow managed to turn the conversat= ion to software piracy. He discussed=C2=A0 a case he was working on, and ha= ppened to have some documents about=C2=A0it=C2=A0in his briefcase. He pulled out a page= disassembled binary and a page of source code and showed them to the consu= ltant.

After a little study, the consultant confidently opined that the= binary was obviously compiled from that source. "Would it surprise yo= u," the lawyer asked, "if I told you that this is yours and that = is ours?" The consultant did not attend the following day's meetin= g.

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Doug
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