On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 3:30 PM Heinz Lycklama wrote: > INTERACTIVE Systems Corp. (ISC) also ported a UNIX system to an > early VAX 750 computer running DEC's VMS operating system > starting in mid- 1978. ISC was in the business of porting the > UNIX operating system to many different computer hardware > architectures, mini-computers to mainframes, but the first > complete UNIX system port was actually done to the DEC VMS > system. We delivered the first UNIX on VMS system to a customer > in the Fall of 1979. Many of these systems were delivered to > customers in North America as well as in Europe well into > the mid-1980's. > What relationship, if any, does this have to V32? Or maybe "Was that based on V7 or V32?" is the right question... Also, this wasn't something that I had on my list... Any chance there's a paper / article / etc on this? And thank you for your remembrance... Warner > Heinz > > On 1/15/2021 6:29 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:18 PM John Cowan wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 3:14 PM Dave Horsfall wrote: >> >> >>> > Whose foray? Not DEC's. Eunice was built at SRI and sold by the >>> > Wollongong Group, who must have had Downundrian connections. >>> >> >> >>> It was >>> originally developed ca. 1981 by David Kashtan at SRI[1] and later >>> maintained and marketed by The Wollongong Group.'' >>> >> >> Where's the disagreement? >> > > Eunice post-dated DEC's first Unix offering by several years. They sold V7 > and later V7M before rebranding it to Ultrix. Eunice was 4.1BSD (later 4.2 > and 4.3) that Dr Kashtan grafted into VMS in ways that... provoke strong > feelings among reviewers... The TCP/IP stack that was inside of Eunice > would form the basis for Wollongong's TCP/IP offerings on VMS... A more > refined version, also done I think by Kashtan, was marketed by TGV and > there was always much rivalry between the two companies... > > Wollongong got its license because they were the marketing company formed > to market Dr. Miller's port to Interdata, and they later branched out > significantly because their license was so special... Or at least that's > the story they told customers and internally... I never saw the original > license to know... > > Warner > > >