From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CE228708 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 00:52:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9F543150; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:52:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-ej1-x634.google.com (mail-ej1-x634.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::634]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 887234314E for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:52:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-ej1-x634.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a26ed1e05c7so219990166b.2 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2024 15:52:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20230601.gappssmtp.com; s=20230601; t=1709855558; x=1710460358; darn=tuhs.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=yhJeR2GQGmPKqj6SirYClKzKvDymieCrXux85hrRMaE=; b=L69qyhYbyOmbtu/1Am0YvTp3g02fJG8JwEwWMG/BByWBxK/vLxhze470NIkK9iFI/7 YZfB/1/C/fYvm3K6E1tjVcAktFYlh9y2dRy2+NXOuvf8vsx8RN0Xyf9qYrUfAlF3EXsQ w/l+/hCI+g90T0sJ+TpP93/xgwvQ5snigv9tjes+oSshdJP2DdxjRWf+iwptpTtn6iOC CH/S2gFa7YKxvCHfsizyUlctV33gW9TbOEVwJcFyt4lIb+JNlXyHctfqTUYCsSpTecPz zTq1W/ebOxNqCxUP4wgN8unZLPm4WZw7UtJuWJ0tKZzqj/c8tjxURf4VjbR+ywD5Nfk8 gMgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1709855558; x=1710460358; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=yhJeR2GQGmPKqj6SirYClKzKvDymieCrXux85hrRMaE=; b=qeVlfMVcrpnV4fg6PkcCzMc7zov8QlKU6aPHay85bqnbb8vMsdj6FW1Q7dbl5DAcDX 5NE4uFk4igWxU9hbEYDfvBSY+sqUC33GI8bXB2HZi9IF5sjg4jd5d8W7lLFlDaw9ibqF HAvgKIcGUMEh3kGTTKjW0AfsTIoGRIgo8IJpAkX6FjKgiNILDcj7h1wUfGUbn5xtK7Fl eFp3t57Wbgp/JkegMWQ96n+OafoByDH0SnbdDQNvrA0C9nRhNwkpP8OtxnAPvpIosl2k EkUo9qDlZ5KYfFP0cKRE4GCQjku0YtMzf3mDKwpnza7LjYWDpKHJEAJuFezDYtfCTCEr PTkQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwHVmClGKjxFmC2hJaxxVCaMmg71wb6pww8ti7wea09wlT8czJB 8watLMLFTYa+lM+w2ENlT3hR6hq07g26D/yM45GEvHj5GyfbUfz48EV1drkqCKIQYAbaAX6q1Mb UH+ocBgbLhf1EDdIOF2rLlPd/M5TrKPdUqi6bgA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE/c1XtmdB0y6CVTRfHfVwHZ5ZwROgDatwcsGcSpFlYya7rBLUaCnfHCAX5eQ8YDs5VDw43OB8XQCgagZAQk/A= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3458:b0:a45:bb8f:fc73 with SMTP id d24-20020a170906345800b00a45bb8ffc73mr3607131ejb.22.1709855557418; Thu, 07 Mar 2024 15:52:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2024 16:52:26 -0700 Message-ID: To: Tom Lyon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001e1a7f06131ac578" Message-ID-Hash: PFDK2QVZLVPY5DNTW3OQ5Z2JT4EBVKC6 X-Message-ID-Hash: PFDK2QVZLVPY5DNTW3OQ5Z2JT4EBVKC6 X-MailFrom: wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS main list X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: History of non-Bell C compilers? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --0000000000001e1a7f06131ac578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 4:24=E2=80=AFPM Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2024, 4:14=E2=80=AFPM Tom Lyon wrote: > >> For no good reason, I've been wondering about the early history of C >> compilers that were not derived from Ritchie, Johnson, and Snyder at Bel= l. >> Especially for x86. Anyone have tales? >> Were any of those compilers ever used to port UNIX? >> > > MIT had several that were used for ka9q and at least the Venix x86 port. > They supported the popular micros of the time. Various versions of them > survive to the present day. > It's at bitsavers: https://bitsavers.org/bits/MIT/pc-ip/8086_C_19850820.tar and https://bitsavers.org/bits/MIT/trix/MIT_Compiler_Tape/ are pointers to compilers from the early 80s. Obviously not ANSI-C compilers :) Warner --0000000000001e1a7f06131ac578 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 4:24=E2=80=AFP= M Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> = wrote:


On Thu, Mar 7, 2024, 4:14=E2=80=AFPM Tom Lyon <pugs78@gmail.com> wrote:
= For no good reason, I've been wondering about the early history of C co= mpilers that were not derived from Ritchie, Johnson, and Snyder at Bell.=C2= =A0 Especially for x86.=C2=A0 Anyone have tales?
Were any of those comp= ilers ever used to port UNIX?

MIT had several that were used for ka= 9q and at least the Venix x86 port. They supported the popular micros of th= e time. Various versions of them survive to the present day.

It's at bitsavers:

htt= ps://bitsavers.org/bits/MIT/pc-ip/8086_C_19850820.tar
and

are pointers to compilers from the early 80s. Obviously not ANSI-C = compilers :)

Warner=C2=A0
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