From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EA4283F6 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 00:59:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B904317A; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:59:12 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lax.lemis.com (www.lemis.com [45.32.70.18]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3BE43171 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 09:59:09 +1000 (AEST) Received: from eureka.lemis.com (121-200-11-253.79c80b.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net [121.200.11.253]) by lax.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07C6280E9; Thu, 7 Mar 2024 23:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hydra.lemis.com (hydra.lemis.com [192.109.197.129]) by eureka.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DB12635C7; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:59:08 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from hydra.lemis.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hydra.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDD113CC9; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:59:08 +1100 (AEDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by hydra.lemis.com (8.17.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 427Nx6Na039571; Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:59:06 +1100 (AEDT) (envelope-from grog) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2024 10:59:06 +1100 From: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" To: Larry McVoy Message-ID: References: <20240307234921.GO2252@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="12wzjc+ZaFY7jHHL" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240307234921.GO2252@mcvoy.com> Organization: LEMIS, 29 Stones Road, Dereel, VIC, Australia Phone: +61-3-5309-0418 Mobile: +61-490-494-038. Use only as instructed. WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Message-ID-Hash: H7XTW7IS2GNENHDPCV3EKV74MRU3NSE6 X-Message-ID-Hash: H7XTW7IS2GNENHDPCV3EKV74MRU3NSE6 X-MailFrom: grog@hydra.lemis.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: History of non-Bell C compilers? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --12wzjc+ZaFY7jHHL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday, 7 March 2024 at 15:49:21 -0800, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 10:39:20AM +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote: >> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024, Warner Losh wrote: >> >>> MIT had several that were used for ka9q and at least the Venix x86 port. >>> They supported the popular micros of the time. Various versions of them >>> survive to the present day. >> >> That reminds me: there was the Hi-Tech C Compiler for the Z-80 (CP/M); it >> was full ANSI (unlike BDS C which barely supported C). > > Some people like to hate on BDS C, I'm not one of them. It was a very > fast compiler compared to other C compilers +1. I started with BDS C in about 1980, when it came bundled with MINCE. It took me a long time before I used a real, standard C compiler. > My memory is BDS C did C just fine, but had a very non standard > standard I/O library. I had relearn stdio when I got to Unix. Yes, this matches my experience. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php --12wzjc+ZaFY7jHHL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQSaG4ICvM64RvkvCawi5vKQUHpCIwUCZepUxgAKCRAi5vKQUHpC IyEHAJ45gA56l5IbehmUikxtOBdeIy92hwCgiHSBcsuoxaePDDf7bC8d4jZppMA= =lFVN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --12wzjc+ZaFY7jHHL--