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List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Speaking of the CP/M and later DOS world, Aztec C was a very competent C compiler. I recently put together a CP/M environment, and used the latest version I could find of Aztec C, and it did just what I wanted it to do. On 03/07/2024 04:49 PM, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Fri, Mar 08, 2024 at 10:39:20AM +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote: >> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024, Warner Losh wrote: >> >>> MIT had several that were used for ka9q and at least the Venix x86 por= t. >>> They supported the popular micros of the time. Various versions of the= m >>> survive to the present day. >> That reminds me: there was the Hi-Tech C Compiler for the Z-80 (CP/M); = it >> was full ANSI (unlike BDS C which barely supported C). > Some people like to hate on BDS C, I'm not one of them. It was a very > fast compiler compared to other C compilers (Turbo Pascal was a lot > faster, I remain impressed with that speed to this day). > > My memory is BDS C did C just fine, but had a very non standard standard > I/O library. I had relearn stdio when I got to Unix. But I never had a > problem with it not compiling C. >