On Mon, 4 Feb 2019, Steve Nickolas wrote: > I think the term is "Embrace, Extend, Exterminate" I heard it as "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish"; witness their attempt to take over PPP (which eventually had to accommodate their "extensions"), and Usenet before that, which thankfully failed, because they wanted a central authority. How the hell do you think that Usenet flourished? It was an utter anarchy, that's why! And the marketoid control-freaks hated it... If you look carefully at PPP, you will see certain negotiations which ∆ simply don't belong at that level (DNS etc). Cough MS/CHAP cough... If you want to talk PPP to an NT server, well, you'd better be prepared to accommodate their "extensions". And to those bods who think we're bashing M$, well, there might be a damned good reason for it (some of us here go back a *long* time, so you might have to brush up on your history, and grow out of your short pants). -- Dave, who used to be known as "Fowler Ware" on aus.flame