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[2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d124si599171qka.5.2018.12.22.01.56.53 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 22 Dec 2018 01:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of 23hiro@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2f; Received: by mail-yb1-xb2f.google.com with SMTP id a10so3135685ybl.7 for ; Sat, 22 Dec 2018 01:56:53 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a25:d097:: with SMTP id h145mr4716349ybg.281.1545472612785; Sat, 22 Dec 2018 01:56:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a81:5cc:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Dec 2018 01:56:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <2559cce4-8658-426d-a965-b45c6423892e@googlegroups.com> <87efabm2r7.fsf@vuxu.org> <574cb087-58c9-42b9-8b39-228d6e6c1a21@googlegroups.com> From: hiro <23hiro@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2018 10:56:51 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how do you install brave browser in void? To: Sam Schmalzried Cc: Smo Oey , voidlinux Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Sender: 23hiro@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=QW7PNQXu; spf=pass (google.com: domain of 23hiro@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::b2f as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=23hiro@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list voidlinux@googlegroups.com; contact voidlinux+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 289663804196 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , >As for people being nasty, there's a lot of people on the mailing list who= are simple users and not devs for the project, myself included. yep. i don't know why Smo needs to use personal attacks like calling me "nasty". i'm just telling my personal opinion as a user of this mailing list, i have no other affiliation to the voidlinux project. Smo's his first mail made me wonder if he's trying to pressure the project into providing him services for free, by making it seem like voidlinux would otherwise lose tons of potentially important users (like him?). the rest of the mail is a little rant about web browsers, so skip if you don't like the topic: mozilla is financed by google, who would like to make you believe (now more than ever, with microsoft pulling out of it's own web engine) there is an alternative to google's monopoly over the web standards. mozilla will continue to implement whatever standards google declares. additionally it makes sense they've been using the ad revenue money they received from google to market their browser as something ethically superior. google would demand this. they clearly wouldn't want to risk any painful anti-monopoly policies by any governments. originally being about presentation, the web is now much more, e.g. a distributed computing framework to enable a load of commercial interests that happen to coincide with the consumption of digital and material products. it was never supposed to focus strongly on privacy, anonymity or security in any form, and it is harder than ever to protect against the many - by-design - data-leaking channels, that only get more plentyful with rising complexity. mozilla will not, and does not want to, change that. On 12/22/18, 'Sam Schmalzried' via voidlinux w= rote: > On the topic of adding software to the Void repos, you can find some pret= ty > comprehensive instructions here: https://wiki.voidlinux.org/Xbps-src. On= ce > you get Brave working on your own machine, you can follow those instructi= ons > and it will at least be included in the xbps-src repo which is the easies= t > way to add software to the project. > > As for people being nasty, there's a lot of people on the mailing list wh= o > are simple users and not devs for the project, myself included. > > Last, in response to hiro: what's wrong with Firefox and FF-based browser= s? > Last I checked Mozilla is pretty committed to open source, and what littl= e > information collection they have enabled is easy enough to opt out of. > > Sam Schmalzried > > =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 Original = Message =E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90=E2=80=90 > On Friday, December 21, 2018 4:13 PM, Smo Oey wrote= : > >> I ain't complaining that it's not added, you don't gotta get nasty. I >> don't know how to add all that stuff and didn't think any random users >> could mess with the voidlinux repos or whatever. If that's how "Devs" ac= t >> or treat general users or whatever, then forget Void. Don't need this sh= it >> from anyone. >> >> On Friday, December 21, 2018 at 4:38:58 PM UTC-5, hiro neu wrote: >> >>> even though i agree that webkit and firefox based browsers should be >>> dropped for privacy reasons, people are obviously providing all kinds >>> of horrible popular packages without asking me. >>> >>> if you also want to provide a horrible webkit fork just do the work to >>> add it to the package repository yourself. >>> >>> stop complaining or begging for other people to do it. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "voidlinux" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to voidlinux+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to voidlinux@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> [https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/voidlinux/574cb087-58c9-42b9-8b39-228= d6e6c1a21%40googlegroups.com](https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/voidlinux/5= 74cb087-58c9-42b9-8b39-228d6e6c1a21%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=3Demail&u= tm_source=3Dfooter). >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "voidlinux" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to voidlinux+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to voidlinux@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/voidlinux/zBh3l9uE5YYbR4ccFOMhnC5cWzfld= L6InQFVaXqDrb8KNEkAed1b1Mysn9GUNJVHDeO5IEW3S4nYml4AdYWWaoyydj7Cj5_gXNa_jAk2= 6iM%3D%40protonmail.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= voidlinux" group. 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