From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_EF,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from zero.zsh.org (zero.zsh.org [IPv6:2a02:898:31:0:48:4558:7a:7368]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98DA22A87 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 21:59:13 +0100 (CET) ARC-Seal: i=1; cv=none; a=rsa-sha256; d=zsh.org; s=rsa-20210803; t=1710277153; b=m+OY/BtJTPK15xKzNq5ODV5LalN/urkSv8Z80ZMQbd7ijtCgPkZhavaMn+Iodr9EZVQEE7lKxX NVifFTBfs/ix+IdJdxL/VLwWaN4CVWSMVJ8r1kjBHVqK9Lg5wXkwtOLpnkJVBi+0X9JRZ+7Xu0 B0nRMllnu/9iTNW6mY9FEIHWEP5xtbW9zYNgKZf5cclYXDAUEjWxeT975BymrEO3O7TdtvPzsd FiNFMpSn76YCqfIzRxA01Ph3EQVWFmwi2zLVwyXcYWCDTS2E5QY9sPqp2onuRwRY7kZ3GPiM7D tKAEt2lVaxseEM0O84bBTz7xsaTeJcZOUxbFCZ7ZeJb+Fw==; ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; zsh.org; iprev=pass (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net) smtp.remote-ip=217.70.183.195; dmarc=none header.from=chazelas.org; arc=none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=zsh.org; s=rsa-20210803; t=1710277153; bh=dl0vGhhHrUXVWlsuDOsDrjTxmTJa6wbVx9Lx/rXcs/c=; h=List-Archive:List-Owner:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Help: List-Id:Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:DKIM-Signature; b=jInjKC1h50pqexYCc6QCGyHJ4za2M2yCpBVcCiQs5+FeYlUPwFaA8I5t6vm3ZQWjiFlMyYFByS L7vCZ8Eh0G4jDg+kHEvKxr6d2PH0E961rLL2+59KfB7xt1QlYlaJ7BFZjxTuyoRAQVQwywhJtf tp2pp8L4sD08iDA2WC7YnzokGwkHo8EtczEg/82c27ENe3vJvhUtY7hC2e5nAn/nB9hALn1+BC /pFxmJoCrI5RqJsOuqQx3pLCcde++iguNJNGSE8PIOHWxMHQw0J2bZoQql5AAGhMxz3wdS53rb pOvYQqbzksk9uND9XQk8GVegN1sRJVinhaGvrQ3vavWAOg==; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zsh.org; s=rsa-20210803; h=List-Archive:List-Owner:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Id:Sender:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version :References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=VifkwgRbfeLiIiEsQwLMEk4kOOFaQXEbZz0F7xDmGZw=; b=XFF/k70fADkH6Io4Fg/EFUZe08 KiaYaxxxB6/0hb+GaLkh+GkKvjStsmFW+DwRdjINmrFPS6gU7Y93FJWozRyIU3EiF3uEu30sp5Lks A6DfuIop6ln+SKiT068Y0HsqJPgcq4MmTlDhqOVWh7rKemsVaq7oVPYMfjFQ0juvriGImiSzicPkk VB+mju4RD9FWS9su0lIDeGiNBHttunc+t4KLLm58Uzm+ofXAqLxH89EzssLsOt9fo7yEUVIeryU8u SfGuSkapGIRQpkcSc0skA4M/HeBfJzeWiUHOseSmKWDeXxSt1KrufRPTcDk12Rj4SErfjk3Ofbh+P WJUSaOQg==; Received: by zero.zsh.org with local id 1rk9DM-0009UN-6e; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 20:59:12 +0000 Authentication-Results: zsh.org; iprev=pass (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net) smtp.remote-ip=217.70.183.195; dmarc=none header.from=chazelas.org; arc=none Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:53553) by zero.zsh.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) id 1rk9D4-0009AY-Uz; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 20:58:56 +0000 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A0F460003; Tue, 12 Mar 2024 20:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 20:58:53 +0000 From: Stephane Chazelas To: Bart Schaefer Cc: Zsh hackers list Subject: Re: "typeset -p" and no_GLOBAL_EXPORT, other misc. Message-ID: <20240312205853.tradpaefoqxs54gj@chazelas.org> Mail-Followup-To: Bart Schaefer , Zsh hackers list References: <20240312084926.d6vbk75ozud7i2jm@chazelas.org> <20240312202653.p2bbwbpxcfazzgpj@chazelas.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: stephane@chazelas.org X-Seq: 52737 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: 2024-03-12 13:38:48 -0700, Bart Schaefer: [...] > > but I find that export / typeset -x seem to > > behave like typeset -gx in that they don't make the variable > > local. > > Yes, that's GLOBAL_EXPORT in action, as in the subject of this thread. > They're still exactly like each other, I didn't say they were like > some other shell's export or that they acted like -r. Sorry, most of your initial post went way over my head, I just reacted to the last sentence to warn against the "bash way" in this regard and make sure that -g remains more for "non-local" than "global" (whatever that means such as outermost-scope in bash). [...] > > To have a local export variable, it seems you need > > typeset var; typeset -x var or typeset var; export var instead > > of typeset -x var. > > Just > typeset +g -x var [...] Thanks. Also fine with me for +g to cancel an implicit -g that would mean non-local. -- Stephane