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From: Stephane Chazelas <stephane@chazelas.org>
To: Oliver Kiddle <opk@zsh.org>
Cc: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>, zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH?] Nofork and removing newlines
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 08:42:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240315084226.rsgcm35fbqld3t2p@chazelas.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31438-1710454547.652877@WxhA.vkY6.ljF0>

I don't know if that could be done and it's probably too late
anyway, but I thought I might throw in the idea anyway.

What about, instead of adding ksh93's ${ cmd;} and mksh's
${|cmd} (in slightly diverging ways), we added just a |
expansion flag whereby:

${(||)any zsh code} would expand to the output of the code
without the fork and without the newline trimming.

${(|var|)any zsh code} would expand to the value of var as set
by the zsh code

Some advantages:
- the flags can be cumulated as usual. So you can have ${(||.s[:])getconf PATH}
  to split the output of getconf PATH ("." to trim one newline,
  ".." to trim all) for example.
- there's no extra rule as to how the expansion works and how it
  can be combined with others as it's the same syntax as other
  parameter expansions
- as it's different syntax, it removes the potential surprises
  when ${ cmd;}, ${|cmd} behave differently than in
  ksh93/mksh/bash

=============

Or (as a completely different idea), an alternative to
mksh's ${|cmd} and ${|var|cmd} could be written ${REPLY<cmd}
${var<cmd}.

That could be added as well as ${|cmd} if we wanted to add
${|cmd} for compatibility with mksh/bash.

Or we could add neither of ${ cmd;} and ${|cmd} and have
${REPLY<cmd} as the (non-splitting, non-trimming) equivalent of
${|cmd} and ${<cmd} as the (non-splitting, non-trimming)
equivalent of ${ cmd;} (though the latter would prevent adding
${ cmd; } in the future).

And still allow flags there as in ${(.s[:])<getconf PATH}

-- 
Stephane
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-15  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-05  5:52 Bart Schaefer
2024-03-05  6:56 ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-03-05 22:48   ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-06 17:57     ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-03-06 19:45       ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-06 22:22         ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-03-06 22:42           ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-07  4:53           ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-07  7:02             ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-03-07  8:09               ` ${<file} (Was: [PATCH?] Nofork and removing newlines) Stephane Chazelas
2024-03-08  1:29               ` [PATCH?] Nofork and removing newlines Bart Schaefer
2024-03-08 22:15                 ` Oliver Kiddle
2024-03-08 23:28                   ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-09 20:43                     ` Oliver Kiddle
2024-03-10  6:11                       ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-12 17:54                         ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-12 23:19                           ` Oliver Kiddle
2024-03-13  4:13                             ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-14 22:15                               ` Oliver Kiddle
2024-03-15  8:42                                 ` Stephane Chazelas [this message]
2024-03-27  1:16                                   ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-27  7:05                                 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-07  7:10             ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-03-08  0:37               ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-07  6:52           ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-03-07  8:26             ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-03-07 19:02               ` Bart Schaefer
2024-04-02  6:45                 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-03-06 19:43     ` Stephane Chazelas

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