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From: Clinton Bunch <cdb_zsh@zentaur.org>
To: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] zsh/random module
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2024 07:47:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e7c5eb5e-2f2f-4ef6-acdf-124490958a66@zentaur.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH+w=7Z5ADwk_FWc_-Vw2OEjcPfc=BRnQY8HVr8m_uNTZeAj2w@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/24/2024 21:34, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:11 AM Clinton Bunch <cdb_zsh@zentaur.org> wrote:
>> zrand_int takes 0-3 arguments, an exclusive upper bound, a lower bound,
>> a flag to make the upper bound inclusive.
> Documentation remarks:
>
> +optional.  If none are specified it is equivilent to
>
> Typo: "equivalent'
>
> +tt(inclusive) is a flag to determine whether the result can ever equal
> +tt(upper).  By default it can not. If this argument is set to a non-zero value
> +then it can.
>
> Something about the use of "can" in those sentences strikes me as odd.
>    a flag that controls whether the result is ever equal to
>    by default it is not
>    then it may be
> ??
>
> +possible return values 0-15, in order to use it as an array index which goes
> +from 1-16 you need to add one.  Since it can return zero, you don't want it
> +to return 16.
>
> It took me a few re-readings to figure out that "16" is meant as an
> example result of $#a from the previous two expressions.  The switch
> to addressing the reader as in "you need" / "you don't want" threw me
> off.  Perhaps adding:
>    For example, if $#a is 16,
> and then end sentence and start again:
>    values 0-15.  Thus in order
> I might also change "Since" to "Because".
>
Does this work better:

tt(inclusive) is a flag that controls whether the result is ever equal to
tt(upper).  By default it is not. If this argument is set to a non-zero 
value
then it may be.

This is to facilitate a construct like tt($a[zrand_int($#a)+1]) rather
than tt($a[zrand_int+LPAR()$#a-1+RPAR()+1]).
For example, if $#a is 16, you would use tt(zrand_int+LPAR()16RPAR()) 
which has
16 possible return values 0-15, in order to use it as an array index 
which goes
from 1-16 you need to add one.  Because the function can return zero, it 
would
be an array index range error for it to also potentially return 16 
($#a). You
could, however, use the construct tt(zrand_int+LPAR()16,1,1+RPAR()) 
instead of
adding 1 to achieve the same result, but it is more verbose.

Most statistics algorithms seem to also expect 0 to tt(upper)-1, so this was
deemed the most commonly desired case and chosen as the default.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-26 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-24 14:11 Clinton Bunch
2024-03-25  2:34 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-03-26 12:47   ` Clinton Bunch [this message]
2024-03-26 13:01     ` Clinton Bunch
2024-03-26 18:25     ` Bart Schaefer
2024-04-06  2:41 ` Clinton Bunch
2024-04-06 16:48   ` Clinton Bunch

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