From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <000e01c1a1ed$88a01c40$58a709ca@rosh> From: "Roshan James" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1A21B.80E20F80" Subject: [9fans] Getting started in Plan9 - help Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:32:35 +0530 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 3f34186a-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1A21B.80E20F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Getting started in Plan9 ------------------------- =20 Its been a little over a week since i got my Plan9 working and=20 I still seem to be in tourist mode.Lots of questions and=20 a few suggestions: (I promise I have tried to answer these for myself before before I am ask them) It would be great if we have a school boy style step-by-step=20 getting-off-the-ground tour of plan9, maybe somewhere in the wiki. I would be glad to do this, if i knew enough. Graphics ----------- - I am working with an S3 Trio 64v2 card, the install floppy gave me 800*600 res,but after installation i am on 640*480 and i cant seem to be able to change it aux/vga -l 800x600x8 gives me 'Warning (BUG) : redefinition of aperture does not change=20 s3screen segment.' in a black background in the sentre of the screen and an error message that reads=20 'aux/vga: vgactlw: : vga already configured' in the console window. it is a low end card but I believe that=20 I did have a higher res through the boot disk so it should be=20 possible here too. how can i change to a higher res ? - If plan9 is booted through xosl in 640*480 res,plan9 graphics display ends up corrupt. the bootloader does switch to text mode before the OS is booted. anyother resolution or a text mode boot loader does not seem to have a problem.=20 The right quarter of the screen (approx) seems to be a duplicate of the band of the screen display between in the left part. (bad description i know). Anyway to fix this ? Acessibility ------------- - How can I read a couple of html docs in Plan9 ? - Is there a place where the uses of directories the std file system heirarchy is discussed, esp /n ?=20 - /n/c: exists, how can i access the extended partitions ? - How can i access the floppy a: ? /n/a: exists but shows no files. - How can i access the extended windows partitions ?=20 - Problem with accessing C: File operations to /n/c: causes a problem '%mkdir /n/c:/testdir' 'mkdir: cant create /n/c:/testdir: write to hungup channel' also a black background error message comes (is there a generic name for these messages ?) 'dossrv 45: suicide: sys: trap fault read addr=3D0xb pc=3D0x00004757' help ? Shell ------=20 - How can I find/search for a file in Plan9 ? the usual find /|grep xxx=20 does not exist here, what is the equivalent ? - Why doesnt/Can rc have autocomplete and filename completion as in=20 bash ? This has become so neccessary. Keys ----- - Why cant the left/right arrow keys+home+end keys move the cursor, it is really difficult to edit something by placing the cursor there with the mouse.=20 - Unless is it part of a grander plan (no pun intended), can we move=20 the process interrupt key from Del to something else and have the=20 conventional functionality of del back ? General ------- - Is the option of plan9 default boot in bootsetup (during install) safe for other OSes that exist on the system ? - Why arent there more applications and more developers interested in developing for plan9 ?=20 Russ, I think it would kill you to keep answering all the newbie=20 questions. Russ, Imel, Thanks for all the help you have been. I=20 think the Plan9 faq needs updation with some of the more generic=20 questions here. This is a lesson that could learned from the Win32's,=20 if you want the OS to grow, you have to get people comfortable with=20 it very fast. I think we can make that happen. Rosh. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------ One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. (Lord of the Rings) ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C1A21B.80E20F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Getting started in=20 Plan9
-------------------------   
Its been a = little over=20 a week since i got my Plan9 working and
I still seem to be in = tourist=20 mode.Lots of questions and
a few suggestions:
(I promise I have = tried to=20 answer these for myself before
before I am ask them)
 
It would be great if we have a school = boy style=20 step-by-step
getting-off-the-ground tour of plan9, maybe somewhere = in=20 the
wiki. I would be glad to do this, if i knew enough.
 
Graphics
-----------
- I am = working with an=20 S3 Trio 64v2 card, the install floppy
gave me 800*600 res,but after=20 installation i am on 640*480 and
i cant seem to be able to change=20 it
aux/vga -l 800x600x8
gives me
'Warning (BUG) : redefinition = of=20 aperture does not change
s3screen segment.'
in a black background = in the=20 sentre of the screen and an error
message that reads
'aux/vga: = vgactlw:=20 <size 800x600x8 m8>: vga already configured'
in the console = window. it=20 is a low end card but I believe that
I did have a higher res through = the=20 boot disk so it should be
possible here too. how can i change to a = higher=20 res ?
 
- If plan9 is booted through xosl in = 640*480=20 res,plan9 graphics
display ends up corrupt. the bootloader does = switch to=20 text mode
before the OS is booted. anyother resolution or a text mode = boot
loader does not seem to have a problem.
The right quarter of = the=20 screen (approx) seems to be a duplicate
of the band of the screen = display=20 between in the left part. (bad
description i know). Anyway to fix = this=20 ?
 

Acessibility
-------------
- How can I read a couple of = html docs=20 in Plan9 ?
- Is there a place where the uses of directories the std = file=20 system
heirarchy is discussed, esp /n ?
- /n/c: exists, how can i = access=20 the extended partitions ?
- How can i access the floppy a: ? /n/a: = exists but=20 shows no files.
- How can i access the extended windows partitions ? =
-=20 Problem with accessing C: File operations to /n/c: causes a = problem
'%mkdir=20 /n/c:/testdir'
'mkdir: cant create /n/c:/testdir: write to hungup=20 channel'
also a black background error message comes (is there a = generic=20 name
for these messages ?)
'dossrv 45: suicide: sys: trap fault = read=20 addr=3D0xb pc=3D0x00004757'
help ?
 
Shell
------
- How can I find/search for a file in Plan9 ? = the usual=20 find /|grep xxx
does not exist here, what is the equivalent ?
- = Why=20 doesnt/Can rc have autocomplete and filename completion as in
bash ? = This=20 has become so neccessary.
 
Keys
-----
- Why cant the left/right arrow keys+home+end keys = move=20 the cursor,
it is really difficult to edit something by placing the = cursor=20 there
with the mouse.
- Unless is it part of a grander plan (no = pun=20 intended), can we move
the process interrupt key from Del to = something else=20 and have the
conventional functionality of del back ?
 
General
-------
- Is the option of plan9 default boot in = bootsetup=20 (during install)
safe for other OSes that exist on the system ?
- = Why=20 arent there more applications and more developers interested
in = developing=20 for plan9 ?
 
Russ, I think it would kill you to keep answering all the newbie=20
questions. Russ, Imel, Thanks for all the help you have been. I =
think=20 the Plan9 faq needs updation with some of the more generic
questions = here.=20 This is a lesson that could learned from the Win32's,
if you want = the OS to=20 grow, you have to get people comfortable with
it very fast. I think = we can=20 make that happen.
Rosh.
 
----------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------
One=20 Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them = all and=20 in the darkness bind them.
(Lord of the = Rings)
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