From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <002301c33669$e2f6d8c0$e3944251@insultant.net> From: "boyd, rounin" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030619093435.13228.qmail@mail.dirac.net> Subject: Re: [9fans] The new ridiculous license MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:51:26 +0200 Topicbox-Message-UUID: cfcf94d4-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 > If the license is a contract, that contract is not enforceable as such in court. > The reason (at least in English law, perhaps someone can comment on > NY/USA law) is that for a contract to be created, there must be an exchange > of value - i.e. Lucent gives you the software, you have to give them something > of value (e.g. cash) in return. UK law, a contract has three things: - offer [the thing being sold] - acceptance [when you say 'i wanna buy it'] - consideration [the thing given, usually money, so that you get the thing you want] that's a common law thing. contracts are usually things that you sign that both sides are bound by. however, having said that, in sweden (god forbid) if there's a typo in the contract and you buy, say, volvo for 1 �re, the court will quash the contract because it's 'obviously' 'wrong'. i suspect that the 'problem' with the plan 9 licence is because lucent is a us company who must comply with ITAR, the Denied Parties List, and various other export controls -- take it up with the us govt. end user certificates, etc etc ... eg. i can tell you of the existance of the Denied Parties List [DPL], but i cannot tell you who's on it. it's so long ago i did the DPL stuff i don't even want to talk about it, but it still applies to me. i do find it _hysterical_ that the BSD boys want the plan 9 compilers.