From: Daniel Lyons <fusion@storytotell.org>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Interested in improving networking in Plan 9
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 15:50:07 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <003AC6B7-30EB-44F6-B0F6-C5222FE9BC5A@storytotell.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <509071940909030913q24d0da62x13daa9c04494964f@mail.gmail.com>
On Sep 3, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote:
> you can do things like
> data constraints and validations in the application code, rather than
> in the sql database itself, which always feels like this random
> bolt-on to the application logic.
I think it's useful to think of relational databases as integration
technology rather than merely storage technology. Having everything
important in the application layer means you have to go through the
application layer to do anything. Part of the point of SQL and RDBMSes
being so complex is that it liberates the data from any one particular
application that wants to access the data. This fact is often
forgotten these days because most databases are only accessed through
the web via one app. But I usually find that eventually one needs to
get at the data directly, for reporting, maintenance or some other
task that isn't intrinsically part of the website. Then the database
can take on the data management role and make sure you don't make your
data incomprehensible, as well as provide you with a little security.
Of course, it's best of all if you have a database that supports
things like views; otherwise you will need application code to have
any abstractions at all.
—
Daniel Lyons
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-03 21:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-30 7:21 Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-30 14:21 ` ron minnich
2009-08-30 16:19 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-30 17:07 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-30 17:40 ` Venkatesh Srinivas
2009-08-30 17:53 ` erik quanstrom
[not found] ` <c81a07350908300842w3df8321aidf55096b65eb9b77@mail.gmail.com>
2009-08-30 18:17 ` ron minnich
2009-08-30 18:35 ` ron minnich
2009-08-31 3:34 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 12:45 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 12:51 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 12:59 ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-31 13:05 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 13:48 ` Anthony Sorace
2009-08-31 14:51 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-08-31 15:03 ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-31 13:42 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 14:04 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 14:25 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 14:36 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 14:57 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 15:52 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 16:12 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 14:55 ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2009-08-31 15:09 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-08-31 15:56 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 16:16 ` Bakul Shah
2009-08-31 16:33 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2009-09-02 16:50 ` Bakul Shah
2009-09-02 17:10 ` Robert Raschke
2009-09-03 11:21 ` matt
2009-09-03 12:50 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 16:13 ` Anthony Sorace
2009-09-03 16:29 ` erik quanstrom
2009-09-03 16:34 ` Robert Raschke
2009-09-03 21:50 ` Daniel Lyons [this message]
2009-09-03 19:08 ` Steve Simon
2009-08-31 17:09 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-08-31 17:20 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 17:32 ` Devon H. O'Dell
2009-08-31 18:00 ` erik quanstrom
2009-08-31 4:17 ` Federico G. Benavento
2009-08-31 4:53 ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-30 17:22 erik quanstrom
2009-08-30 17:36 ` Vinu Rajashekhar
2009-08-30 17:56 ` erik quanstrom
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