From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "John E. Barham" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013D_01C1CD44.7AF8A3F0" Message-ID: Subject: [9fans] ATI Xpert 98 video weirdness Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 23:44:14 -0800 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6856f230-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C1CD44.7AF8A3F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Well, I bought an "ATI Xpert 98 AGP X2" video card and have managed to = install Plan9. FWIW, the chip itself says "RAGE Mobility-L" although = I'm using it in a Dell deskstop. (As an aside, the install procedure was very pleasant. Certainly more = humane than FreeBSD. Reminded me a lot of the BeOS [RIP] installer.) However, the display is messed up w/ left-hand side of the screen = repeated and the right side consequently falling off the right-hand side = of the screen. Can I fiddle w/ VGADB to fix this? Or do I have to = "upgrade" my video card yet again? Thanks in advance. John ------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C1CD44.7AF8A3F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

Well, I bought an "ATI Xpert 98 AGP = X2" video=20 card and have managed to install Plan9. FWIW, the chip itself says = "RAGE=20 Mobility-L" although I'm using it in a Dell deskstop.

(As an aside, the install procedure = was very=20 pleasant. Certainly more humane than FreeBSD. Reminded me a = lot of=20 the BeOS [RIP] installer.)

However, the display is messed up w/ = left-hand=20 side of the screen repeated and the right side consequently falling off = the=20 right-hand side of the screen. Can I fiddle w/ VGADB to fix = this? Or=20 do I have to "upgrade" my video card yet again?

Thanks in advance.

=20 John

------=_NextPart_000_013D_01C1CD44.7AF8A3F0-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Joel Salomon Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit References: Subject: Re: [9fans] ATI Xpert 98 video weirdness Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:39:36 +0000 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 68af26d0-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 john e barham@hotmail.com (John E. Barham) wrote: > Well, I bought an "ATI Xpert 98 AGP X2" video card and have managed to > install Plan9. FWIW, the chip itself says "RAGE Mobility-L" although > I'm using it in a Dell deskstop. Sound like it was a 'white box' graphics card. I have one of those, ( the same ATI XPERT 98 etc.) & I'm pretty satisfied with it. > However, the display is messed up w/ left-hand side of the screen > repeated and the right side consequently falling off the right-hand side > of the screen. Can I fiddle w/ VGADB to fix this? Or do I have to > "upgrade" my video card yet again? I had a similar problem for a time, it's more likely an improper selection of monitor in plan9.ini than anything wrong with the video card. Does standard 640x480 work? > Thanks in advance. > John Hope this helps, Joel From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <004901c1ce9b$d922bdf0$4bf0b487@dnrc.belllabs.com> From: "Dharani Vilwanathan" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: Subject: Re: [9fans] ATI Xpert 98 video weirdness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:42:09 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 68f9b678-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 Hi, About a year back someone suggested ATI Xpert 98 and I bought a couple of cards (AGP 1x version). I use it with 1600x1200 resolution. It works okay but there is one strange problem. While I boot the system, it doesnt reliably switch to graphics mode. It fails about 20% of the time. If I reset the system, the next time turns to graphics mode. Sometimes it is very frustrating because I am afraid the file system might get corrupted any time. Anyone faced a similar pb with ATI Xpert 98? Thanks dharani > john e barham@hotmail.com (John E. Barham) wrote: > > Well, I bought an "ATI Xpert 98 AGP X2" video card and have managed to > > install Plan9. FWIW, the chip itself says "RAGE Mobility-L" although > > I'm using it in a Dell deskstop. > Sound like it was a 'white box' graphics card. I have one of those, ( > the same ATI XPERT 98 etc.) & I'm pretty satisfied with it. > > > However, the display is messed up w/ left-hand side of the screen > > repeated and the right side consequently falling off the right-hand side > > of the screen. Can I fiddle w/ VGADB to fix this? Or do I have to > > "upgrade" my video card yet again? > I had a similar problem for a time, it's more likely an improper > selection of monitor in plan9.ini than anything wrong with the video > card. Does standard 640x480 work? From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "John E. Barham" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Cc: "Joel Salomon" References: Subject: Re: [9fans] ATI Xpert 98 video weirdness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:57:15 -0800 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6b036e32-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 "Joel Salomon" wrote in message news:ec836bd9.0203171952.69ab2889@posting.google.com... > john e barham@hotmail.com (John E. Barham) wrote: > > Well, I bought an "ATI Xpert 98 AGP X2" video card and have managed to > > install Plan9. FWIW, the chip itself says "RAGE Mobility-L" although > > I'm using it in a Dell deskstop. > Sound like it was a 'white box' graphics card. I have one of those, ( > the same ATI XPERT 98 etc.) & I'm pretty satisfied with it. I've actually given up on this particular card since it was acting up even on Windows (colors bleeding after the monitor went to sleep and woke back up). Not sure what to blame (the card seemed to work fine on a separate Win2k box) but my Win98 install is already fragile enough that I don't want to mess w/ it too much. > > However, the display is messed up w/ left-hand side of the screen > > repeated and the right side consequently falling off the right-hand side > > of the screen. Can I fiddle w/ VGADB to fix this? Or do I have to > > "upgrade" my video card yet again? > I had a similar problem for a time, it's more likely an improper > selection of monitor in plan9.ini than anything wrong with the video > card. Does standard 640x480 work? No, I tried that resolution & still got the left-hand side repeating problem. > Hope this helps, > Joel Thanks for trying! Seems I have to up my budget. Any recommendations on more contemporary cards that are known to work w/ Plan9? Russ recommended the Diamond Stealth III S540 but that too seems to be in short supply. Pity the scope of the MS enquiry can't be expanded to investigate Windows' monopoly on device drivers... John From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <671077b5262b00f228d82a153f8a50a2@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: "Russ Cox" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ATI Xpert 98 video weirdness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:29:09 -0500 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 6bbe23c6-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 > Any recommendations on more contemporary > cards that are known to work w/ Plan9? Russ recommended the Diamond Stealth > III S540 but that too seems to be in short supply. Most Nvidia cards appear to work, with tweaks to the install process. I see lots of Diamond Stealth III S540s on Ebay. There appears to be an Xtreme version now as well, which we probably can support easily (it's a Savage4 chip; those are well-understood), but only with a few tweaks to vga. Russ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <4f31f1bd6e49a8532fa1107b5c177bf2@plan9.bell-labs.com> From: "Russ Cox" To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu Subject: Re: [9fans] ATI Xpert 98 video weirdness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 21:46:29 -0400 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 83c7ba2c-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 > Well, I bought an "ATI Xpert 98 AGP X2" video card > and have managed to install Plan9. FWIW, the chip > itself says "RAGE Mobility-L" although I'm using it in a Dell deskstop. > > However, the display is messed up w/ left-hand side > of the screen repeated and the right side consequently > falling off the right-hand side of the screen. > Can I fiddle w/ VGADB to fix this? Or do I have to > "upgrade" my video card yet again? I picked up what was said to be an ATI Xpert 98 AGP X2 on Ebay and it seems to work just fine with the fourth edition vga, just fyi. Then again, the chip says "Rage Pro Turbo AGP" on it, so maybe there's more than one chip on the AGP X2's floating around, or maybe I didn't really get an AGP X2. Russ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: Andrew Stitt Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <4f31f1bd6e49a8532fa1107b5c177bf2@plan9.bell-labs.com> Subject: Re: [9fans] ATI Xpert 98 video weirdness Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:31:24 +0000 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 84056192-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 fwiw i got a similiar pci card, it worked as an Xpert 98, and a Rage something or other. I dont know why. In windows (my os at the time) the ati drivers let you install it as either. On Thu, 2 May 2002, Russ Cox wrote: > > Well, I bought an "ATI Xpert 98 AGP X2" video card > > and have managed to install Plan9. FWIW, the chip > > itself says "RAGE Mobility-L" although I'm using it in a Dell deskstop. > > > > However, the display is messed up w/ left-hand side > > of the screen repeated and the right side consequently > > falling off the right-hand side of the screen. > > Can I fiddle w/ VGADB to fix this? Or do I have to > > "upgrade" my video card yet again? > > I picked up what was said to be an ATI Xpert 98 AGP X2 > on Ebay and it seems to work just fine with the fourth > edition vga, just fyi. Then again, the chip says > "Rage Pro Turbo AGP" on it, so maybe there's more than > one chip on the AGP X2's floating around, or maybe > I didn't really get an AGP X2. > > Russ From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu From: balajis Message-ID: <3CD1E2F6.801B0318@invalid.address.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4f31f1bd6e49a8532fa1107b5c177bf2@plan9.bell-labs.com>, Subject: Re: [9fans] ATI Xpert 98 video weirdness Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 08:44:41 +0000 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 8620e456-eaca-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 FWIW I run an ATI Xpert 98 and here is the info from W2K... Name: ATI Technologies Inc. 3D RAGE PRO PCI Adapter Type: ATI 3D RAGE PRO PCI(GT-C2U2), ATI... and P9 v4 works flawlessly. Andrew Stitt wrote: > > fwiw i got a similiar pci card, it worked as an Xpert 98, and a Rage > something or other. I dont know why. In windows (my os at the time) the > ati drivers let you install it as either. > > On Thu, 2 May 2002, Russ Cox wrote: > > > > Well, I bought an "ATI Xpert 98 AGP X2" video card > > > and have managed to install Plan9. FWIW, the chip > > > itself says "RAGE Mobility-L" although I'm using it in a Dell deskstop. > > > > > > However, the display is messed up w/ left-hand side > > > of the screen repeated and the right side consequently > > > falling off the right-hand side of the screen. > > > Can I fiddle w/ VGADB to fix this? Or do I have to > > > "upgrade" my video card yet again? > > > > I picked up what was said to be an ATI Xpert 98 AGP X2 > > on Ebay and it seems to work just fine with the fourth > > edition vga, just fyi. Then again, the chip says > > "Rage Pro Turbo AGP" on it, so maybe there's more than > > one chip on the AGP X2's floating around, or maybe > > I didn't really get an AGP X2. > > > > Russ