From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <005701c2d5d0$92f81180$644cb2cc@kds> From: "David Butler" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> References: <20030215174605.I9084@cackle.proxima.alt.za> <5058bc09efabbfadfc80effc0d3ba1f1@plan9.bell-labs.com> <20030216170019.Q9084@cackle.proxima.alt.za> Subject: Re: [9fans] Ugly hack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:31:55 -0600 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 62b505a0-eacb-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 Please forgive this outburst, but I just have to say something... The crux of the problem is: [snip] > makes rc's behaviour consistent > with my Unix-based expectations [snip] Repeat after me: "Plan 9 is not Unix and in fundamental ways can NOT, and SHOULD NOT, be made to look like Unix." What happens when you do echo /*/*/*/*/*/*/*/* in Windows? You get /*/*/*/*/*/*/*/*. I guess it is not Unix. But if you run the GNU tools.... I think the biggest problem with Plan 9 is it looks too much like Unix and Bell Labs distributed APE. I'm glad they are generous with their code, but I think APE is Plan 9's Pandora's box. I watch with horror to see X, Perl and GNU tools "ported" to Plan 9. Linux was invented to give the Unix world a toy. Play there. I have argued this point for a long time and have recommended changes that make Plan 9 even less POSIX like because it would make Plan 9 a better computing platform. Get out of the box. Free Your Mind, Neo! There is no spoon.