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h=message-id :to:subject:date:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=mail; b=FUbVPuOvX+JIzb6DJ75 RpieV2RRzZxb+jsliawDoVDT8qTz10hx93EMUqdO6wRhnu/y0aJCKr7viPr52xuK 9KtaJLHcOxNyUHNoNJkhSg0RdsQ1oJKhtUjEd1uJOx+P5u0+aAvaIQ1DP1NZ/8kh BdZWolg4j+lvg7mPzPRkBo7M= Received: from abbatoir.hsd1.ca.comcast.net (c-76-21-119-139.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.21.119.139]) by eigenstate.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id a6c6e990 (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256:NO); Sun, 24 Nov 2019 08:30:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <0074AD32FE84CB7602D40AEE206BCCD9@eigenstate.org> To: 9fans@hamnavoe.com, 9fans@9fans.net Subject: Re: [9fans] Is the vanilla Plan 9 still alive? Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 08:30:56 -0800 From: ori@eigenstate.org In-Reply-To: 73458d38ba582a30687e811898b41388@hamnavoe.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Topicbox-Policy-Reasoning: allow: sender is a member Topicbox-Message-UUID: d02adc88-0ed7-11ea-aa8b-e2e10752c1a9 >> The most official looking site for vanilla plan9 is 9p.io. It >> doesn't show any sign of activity since 2015. > > Please look more closely: > > cpu% srv -n 9p.io sources /n/sources Usually, that's not what people mean when they say 'site'. It's good to see patches being posted, but for someone who is interested in experimenting with plan 9 for the first time, it's not clear that these exist, let alone which are important. Actually, you know what, I should put my money where my mouth is. Would there be objections to me going through and fixing the links in the wiki so they point to 9p.io? Is there anyone who would be comfortable explaining to me exactly the relationship between 9p.io and 9legacy, as well as how people are expected to use the two, so that I can put that into the wiki? Is there anywhere that people would be comfortable blessing as a source for building new ISO images, to put behind the download link, with the accepted patches integrated? (Yes, I do use 9front, but I'm not religious. I'd be happy to take some time to improve labs, too. I also hate people who complain without doing the work to improve things.) > "Usable" is a function of who's doing the using. I use the Labs > version every day and it does what I need. The impression I got was that many users (in the 9front world, at least) have a system patched to their desires, and don't run things fully vanilla, direct from the ISO.