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From: "david presotto" <presotto@closedmind.org>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Virtual memory & paging
Date: Tue,  5 Feb 2002 09:01:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <007d01c1ae4d$9e0c3700$0365c0d0@cc583254b> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020205105739.AF44019999@mail.cse.psu.edu>

Actually, I'ld be seriously worried about our ability to
add DLL support without major bugs.  It adds a lot
of complexity that spans the VM model, security,
and compilers.  A lot of Plan 9's speed and usefulness
arises from its simplicity and this would be a major step in
away from that, not that we haven't been whores 
before.

A major drawback right now is that, unless we change
our MMU handling in a drastic way,
we have to run the shared library at the same addresses
in all programs.   Might be a bit of a problem (unless we
go to 64 bit addressing).  The current MMU
model with its lazy evaluation and no need for a
intermachine shootdown is quite elegant and I'm not sanguine
to lose it just for DLL's.

As Geoff states, we don't seem to be losing out by not
having them, vis a vis memory size.  Some things would
be more efficiently done with a shared library, shared
databases for example.  I'm just not yet prepared to
pay the price in increased complexity.  Others may be.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-02-05 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-05 10:57 geoff
2002-02-05 11:37 ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-05 14:01 ` david presotto [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-15 14:32 Richard Uhtenwoldt
2002-02-16 21:56 ` Ronald G Minnich
2002-02-04 11:03 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-02-04 10:59 forsyth
2002-02-04 10:38 geoff
2002-02-04 11:16 ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-04 11:45 ` Boyd Roberts
2002-02-04 17:10   ` Andrew Simmons
2002-02-05 11:17     ` Boyd Roberts
2002-03-30  4:26   ` Richard Maxwell Underwood
2002-02-05  9:53 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2002-02-05 16:06   ` Ronald G Minnich
2002-02-04 10:30 forsyth
2002-02-03 23:08 geoff
2002-02-03 20:26 ` Andrew Simmons
2002-02-04 16:15   ` Ronald G Minnich
2002-02-04  6:21 ` Richard Uhtenwoldt
2002-02-03 21:53 presotto
2002-02-03 22:36 ` Andrew Simmons
2002-02-03 21:21 rob pike
2002-02-04 21:46 ` skipt
2002-02-04 22:11   ` Ronald G Minnich
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.33.0202041510540.4327-100000@snaresland.acl.lan l.gov>
2002-02-05  1:30     ` skipt
2002-02-05 15:32       ` Ronald G Minnich
2002-02-03 21:12 andrey mirtchovski
2002-02-03 21:01 Andrew Simmons

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