Re: [9fans] X on Plan 9

["Boyd Roberts" <boyd@planete.net>]

From: <anothy@cosym.net>
> okay, here goes: X apps i care about, and breifly why:
> Netscape
> no, i don't plan on porting this locally, but i find Charon
> to be great for ~95% of the web pages i look at. one notable
> exception is my bank; when i need to get there, i use vnc.

i like charon for it's simplicity, but you need an army to implement
that mess which is HTTP/HTML/SSL/...

IIRC charon doesn't do proxy auth.  the structure of the thing is weird.

> an ICQ/AIM/etc. client. i know it's juvenile, but i work

ICQ?  the protocol isn't even specified:

    http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2812.txt

    Network Working Group                                            C. Kalt
    Request for Comments: 2812                                    April 2000
    Updates: 1459
    Category: Informational


                       Internet Relay Chat: Client Protocol

Informational = moving target.

> 9wm and 9term

rio?

9term!  don't get me started on 9term.  i wasted hours in '92 to try
and beat it into shape.  luckily i found the ULTRIX pty driver source.
it had some interesting undocumented features, that avoided 3000
ioctl's per character.  i was a Digital employee at the time.  i added
'look' to it, but rob said it made the button 2 menu too long.  go figure.

for it to be usable it was too ULTRIX specific, so the work is either
lost or is somewhere within SRC/CRL.

i got the credit for B, but that's not strictly true.  rob saw this thing
called 'e' IIRC which acted like B, but used X nonsense.  he
mentioned that sam should read commands out of a named
pipe, hence B.  anyway the code i submitted got re-written
for 'style' reasons i guess.

    john mackin's 'e' -> rob/me/bobf? 'B' -> plumbing

> only because i have to use X at all. i used to also use
> framemaker and staroffice, but i havn't had any reason to
> for over a year. i think that's it. when i had a Unix box,
> there were a few games, too, but i don't remember which.

if you want X get another m/c or dual boot.

personally i think inferno on windows on my 2nd lapdog will do just fine for me.

btw: the first one 'died' so i upgraded.  before taking it apart, 'cos sony vaio
support
    suck etc, i tried to boot it one more time.  it booted.  that explained
everything;
    it had 'died' because of an over temp condition somewhere and after a week?
    it had cooled down and boots fine.  it has plan 9 on it, but i can't type on
the
    keyboard.  anyway, i want to write limbo.  before that i shall prototype
with
    the inferno shell's loadable tk module.

    i have a mail user agent in mind.