From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <00bc01c0c917$7eed5e10$e0b6c6d4@SOMA> From: "Boyd Roberts" To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu> Cc: "Inferno Mailing List" References: <20010419190406.44567199E3@mail.cse.psu.edu> Subject: Re: [9fans] X on Plan 9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:27:10 +0200 Topicbox-Message-UUID: 8667ef32-eac9-11e9-9e20-41e7f4b1d025 From: > okay, here goes: X apps i care about, and breifly why: > Netscape > no, i don't plan on porting this locally, but i find Charon > to be great for ~95% of the web pages i look at. one notable > exception is my bank; when i need to get there, i use vnc. i like charon for it's simplicity, but you need an army to implement that mess which is HTTP/HTML/SSL/... IIRC charon doesn't do proxy auth. the structure of the thing is weird. > an ICQ/AIM/etc. client. i know it's juvenile, but i work ICQ? the protocol isn't even specified: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2812.txt Network Working Group C. Kalt Request for Comments: 2812 April 2000 Updates: 1459 Category: Informational Internet Relay Chat: Client Protocol Informational = moving target. > 9wm and 9term rio? 9term! don't get me started on 9term. i wasted hours in '92 to try and beat it into shape. luckily i found the ULTRIX pty driver source. it had some interesting undocumented features, that avoided 3000 ioctl's per character. i was a Digital employee at the time. i added 'look' to it, but rob said it made the button 2 menu too long. go figure. for it to be usable it was too ULTRIX specific, so the work is either lost or is somewhere within SRC/CRL. i got the credit for B, but that's not strictly true. rob saw this thing called 'e' IIRC which acted like B, but used X nonsense. he mentioned that sam should read commands out of a named pipe, hence B. anyway the code i submitted got re-written for 'style' reasons i guess. john mackin's 'e' -> rob/me/bobf? 'B' -> plumbing > only because i have to use X at all. i used to also use > framemaker and staroffice, but i havn't had any reason to > for over a year. i think that's it. when i had a Unix box, > there were a few games, too, but i don't remember which. if you want X get another m/c or dual boot. personally i think inferno on windows on my 2nd lapdog will do just fine for me. btw: the first one 'died' so i upgraded. before taking it apart, 'cos sony vaio support suck etc, i tried to boot it one more time. it booted. that explained everything; it had 'died' because of an over temp condition somewhere and after a week? it had cooled down and boots fine. it has plan 9 on it, but i can't type on the keyboard. anyway, i want to write limbo. before that i shall prototype with the inferno shell's loadable tk module. i have a mail user agent in mind.