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From: "Boyd Roberts" <boyd@planete.net>
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Subject: Re: [9fans] IL and NAT 
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From: <nigel@9fs.org>

> In fact, since it has been mentioned, Lucent devices (neé Ascend),

you mean: née; the feminine past participle of the verb 'naître' [to be born].
the past participle is 'né' and is conjugated with 'être' [to be].  it's highly
irreguler, as most verbs, in the past tense, are conjugated with 'avoir' [to
have].

    je suis né [i was born]
    je suis née [if i was female]

bit like 'mourir' [to die]:

    je suis mort
    je suis morte

where normally you'd use 'avoir', except for movement and reflexive verbs:

    j'ai deconné [i screwed up or pissed about]

and no 'e' on the end of the past participle if you conjugate with 'avoir'.

but i digress :-)  je déconne...