From: "Wes Kussmaul" <wes@village.com>
To: "Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs" <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] datakit
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 09:06:04 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <00d701c486b6$73917960$6400a8c0@americasgc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa77f8afc54f41306bc38b693b325edc@vitanuova.com>
> like many successors WS begins to make
> some of the worst cursed predecessors start to look good:
> a vast and growing collection of incomplete complexity,
Quote from VARBusiness cited in a recent book ;):
"Seek out security solutions that are complex
and require additional software and hardware."
Widget-driven economics and a military view of security encourage
complexity. Journalists often assume that the complexity is unintended. It's
not. It's a means to keep the customer down on the plantation and utterly
dependent.
> the curious thing about the rise of complexity this time is
> that as far as i can tell, there seems to be no significant
> counter-culture to it, as there has been in times past.
Professional obfuscators and FUD-complexifiers get better at their craft, as
we all do. They learn how to diminish the influence of their adversaries.
> ``where you gonna go? where you gonna run? ...''
I know that ID-PKI appears to be a contributor to complexity. Done properly,
it is just the opposite. Please take another look.
> i say that in the hopes that someone will say:
> it's just building up momentum over here ...
It's building up momentum over here.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-20 13:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-19 15:11 Steve Simon
2004-08-20 1:35 ` geoff
2004-08-20 1:52 ` George Michaelson
2004-08-20 2:43 ` geoff
2004-08-20 3:09 ` George Michaelson
2004-08-20 5:46 ` geoff
2004-08-21 0:33 ` ron minnich
2004-08-21 4:51 ` boyd, rounin
2004-08-21 14:22 ` Brantley Coile
2004-08-22 9:50 ` Tim Newsham
2004-08-23 2:50 ` ron minnich
2004-08-20 14:13 ` boyd, rounin
2004-08-20 9:45 ` C H Forsyth
2004-08-20 12:55 ` Long Political Rant. Was: [Re: [9fans] datakit] Dave Lukes
2004-08-20 16:45 ` Jack Johnson
2004-08-20 16:59 ` rog
2004-08-20 13:06 ` Wes Kussmaul [this message]
2004-08-20 16:51 ` [9fans] datakit Skip Tavakkolian
2004-08-20 17:07 ` rog
2004-08-22 19:06 ` Jack Johnson
2004-08-20 18:41 ` boyd, rounin
2004-08-21 16:37 ` Boris Maryshev
2004-08-21 17:19 ` Boris Maryshev
2004-08-20 3:30 ` ron minnich
2004-08-20 14:24 ` boyd, rounin
2004-08-23 15:04 ` andrey mirtchovski
2004-08-23 15:27 ` ron minnich
2004-08-20 13:48 ` boyd, rounin
2004-08-20 5:05 dmr
2004-08-20 5:35 ` George Michaelson
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